1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,000 New York is excited - awaiting a film premiere. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Tom Cruise himself will be there, 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,100 the celebrity who has set out to bring about a new world order. 4 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:16,100 It's our resposibility to educate… to create a new reality. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,200 It's our responsibilty… This is the way it should be done. 6 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:24,000 All this may sound strange, but it serves a purpose. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Cruise is a Scientologist on a propaganda mission for the much talked about cult 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,400 that is enraged by these masked protesters. 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,400 And now Cruise is even playing Stauffenberg, the would-be Hitler assasin. 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,800 Will "Valkyrie" - in German movie theaters starting tomorrow 11 00:00:42,610 --> 00:00:43,810 turn into an instrument to promote Scientology? 12 00:00:44,810 --> 00:00:46,310 The Brainwashers 13 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:49,810 The Brainwashers - How Dangerous Is Scientology? 14 00:00:49,810 --> 00:00:52,810 A Film by Tilman Jens 15 00:01:00,910 --> 00:01:04,810 In New York the crowd is pushing and shoving… he will be here soon. 16 00:01:04,810 --> 00:01:07,810 More than one hundred camerateams from around the world are here. 17 00:01:07,810 --> 00:01:09,810 The red carpet has been rolled out on the top floor of a shopping mall, 18 00:01:09,810 --> 00:01:12,710 well shielded from the public. This is an invite-only event, 19 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:18,710 the masked people must be kept out at all costs, 20 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:22,710 those much-hated party-guerillas that call themselves "Anonymous" 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,520 and refuse to take Cruise and his buddies 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,320 (the Scientologists of the world) seriously. 23 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,920 Meanwhile, Tom Cruise is only a few feet away, 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,920 hoping to be praised for his performance as Stauffenberg. 25 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,920 Unpleasant questions are brushed off. 26 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,120 "Did being a scientologist give you strength to play this part?" 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,120 I don't understand the question. 28 00:01:49,820 --> 00:01:52,120 The man is a professional in dealing with the press. 29 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,120 And the Stauffenberg movie is not as bad as had been feared. 30 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,020 Even if the dialogue is not always very deep. 31 00:02:13,020 --> 00:02:16,020 A strange device. The so-called E-Meter, 32 00:02:16,020 --> 00:02:18,020 the holiest of holy things for a scientologist, 33 00:02:18,020 --> 00:02:22,020 a kind of lie detector that the organisation uses to monitor it's members 34 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:26,120 according to Scientology that's ten million people worldwide. 35 00:02:26,020 --> 00:02:29,120 Guilt must be admitted. 36 00:02:29,130 --> 00:02:32,130 Critics and ex-members find it insulting that Cruise, 37 00:02:32,130 --> 00:02:34,130 Scientology's most public figure, 38 00:02:34,130 --> 00:02:37,130 is now playing the role of a man who paid with his life 39 00:02:37,130 --> 00:02:41,130 for standing up to a totalitarian regime. 40 00:02:43,130 --> 00:02:44,130 It's ridiculous. 41 00:02:44,130 --> 00:02:46,130 Because Scientology is a dictatorship, 42 00:02:47,130 --> 00:02:49,130 it's a suppressive system. 43 00:02:49,630 --> 00:02:52,130 He is trying to seduce the masses 44 00:02:53,130 --> 00:02:56,230 and to distract from what Scientology is doing. 45 00:02:57,130 --> 00:03:00,230 The purpose of making the movie was 46 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,140 to increase Scientology's influence in Germany. 47 00:03:04,340 --> 00:03:09,840 Apart from his acting qualities, I don't want to comment on them, 48 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,840 there is also a message here that is in my opinion disastrous. 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,840 Trying to possibly lure in young people or people with 50 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,840 psychological problems and introduce them 51 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,840 to the the precepts of Scientology. 52 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,940 This way the hesitance to turn to Scientology is reduced, 53 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,840 then they are quickly caught up and can't get back out. 54 00:03:34,140 --> 00:03:36,740 Celebrities are very important for Scientology. 55 00:03:36,740 --> 00:03:37,840 They're walking advertisements. 56 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,840 Tom Cruise is a cool guy and likes Scientology, 57 00:03:40,850 --> 00:03:42,550 so it can't be all bad. 58 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:50,550 Tom Cruise's speeches to Scientologists are reminiscent of old propagandistic orations 59 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:54,550 Are we gonna clean this place up? 60 00:03:56,050 --> 00:03:57,550 We're counting on you. 61 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:08,250 This "cleaning up" they speak of sounds alarming. 62 00:04:08,250 --> 00:04:11,250 But how dangerous is this registered association 63 00:04:11,250 --> 00:04:14,450 that calls itself a "church" really be? 64 00:04:14,650 --> 00:04:16,450 The Berlin headquarters building is quite big and posh. 65 00:04:16,450 --> 00:04:20,750 Scientology claims to have 30.000 members in Germany. 66 00:04:20,750 --> 00:04:24,750 The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution however, 67 00:04:24,750 --> 00:04:27,750 which has been keeping an eye on the organisation for years, 68 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,760 estimates there are no more than 6.000 members in Germany. 69 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,060 We had an interview scheduled. 70 00:04:31,060 --> 00:04:33,860 A few hours before the shoot the interview was cancelled. 71 00:04:33,860 --> 00:04:37,560 It was explained that airing the documentary the day before "Valkyrie" 72 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,560 starts showing in German movie theaters was not right. 73 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,560 We should change the air-date, but we didn't want to. 74 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,560 So we went looking for insiders and experts that could explain 75 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,560 what Scientology is and what Scientologists do. 76 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:55,560 They believe things like, "We are the only people that have a right to judge others." 77 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,560 If an islamic imam were to say this in a mosque, 78 00:04:58,570 --> 00:05:02,570 he would be kicked out of the country for hate preaching. 79 00:05:02,570 --> 00:05:05,570 But Scientologst in Germany get this drilled into their heads. 80 00:05:05,570 --> 00:05:09,570 They are... It's the same as in many totalitarian ideologies, 81 00:05:09,570 --> 00:05:13,570 there is a race, Hubbard says it's a kind of person, 82 00:05:13,570 --> 00:05:17,570 that is enabled through Scientology's training 83 00:05:17,570 --> 00:05:20,370 to become one of the only ones 84 00:05:20,370 --> 00:05:23,370 that have a right to judge and decide for others. 85 00:05:23,870 --> 00:05:29,370 Scientology is a totalitarian organisation. 86 00:05:29,370 --> 00:05:35,370 They do not tolerate critics but they don't even tolerate indifference. 87 00:05:35,370 --> 00:05:38,070 All they want is supporters. 88 00:05:38,070 --> 00:05:42,370 Anyone not willing to be one 89 00:05:42,380 --> 00:05:46,380 is supposed to be turned around or quarantined 90 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:51,380 and 2,5% of all races are supposed to be destroyed, 91 00:05:51,380 --> 00:05:54,380 because they are beyond saving. 92 00:05:54,580 --> 00:05:56,780 Where is this written? 93 00:05:58,180 --> 00:05:59,880 In Hubbards instructions. 94 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,880 L. Ron Hubbard. 1911-1986. 95 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,880 The founder of the Scientology organization viewed all people 96 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,880 opposed to scientology as criminals. 97 00:06:12,180 --> 00:06:14,280 Objection is not allowed, 98 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:18,280 it disturbs the peace and harmony Scientology promises, 99 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:20,280 as shown in this promotional film. 100 00:06:20,290 --> 00:06:24,090 Hubbard, who started out as a science-fiction writer, wrote: 101 00:06:26,190 --> 00:06:30,390 On the other side of the valley there is a higher level, with a better life. 102 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:34,690 Scientology is the bridge across this valley, 103 00:06:34,690 --> 00:06:36,590 the bridge to a more beautiful and happy world. 104 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:39,190 Sounds nice, but what is it really about? 105 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:44,090 Communication skills training. That's how it starts. 106 00:06:44,090 --> 00:06:46,090 That's to get people hooked. 107 00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:50,090 Apparently people have a lot of problems and have difficulty communicating. 108 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:55,090 There's an endless demand for this kind of thing, 109 00:06:55,090 --> 00:07:00,090 and Scientology wants a piece of the pie. 110 00:07:00,090 --> 00:07:05,090 But Scientolgy doesn't improve people's communication skills, 111 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:09,100 instead they introduce their ideology step by step 112 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:11,100 through their courses and seminars. 113 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:14,100 And that's when people get started. 114 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,100 1984 in Stuttgart, Germany, a young man found Scientology 115 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:23,400 and invested 22 years of his life to the cult. 116 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,400 Under orders of the organisation 117 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,400 that claims he only took care of the car fleet in England 118 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,300 he spent years travelling the world and working in the L.A. headquarters. 119 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:35,900 He managed to get out in 2006. 120 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:37,900 Now he has written a disturbing book, 121 00:07:37,900 --> 00:07:42,200 which has not yet been objected to by Scientology. 122 00:07:47,210 --> 00:07:52,810 I found myself walking around Stuttgart, very very lost. 123 00:07:52,810 --> 00:07:56,510 An attractive German girl, Sabine, came to me and said, 124 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:08,510 And I was a bit out there and explained that I speak English. 125 00:08:22,510 --> 00:08:26,510 And of course my situation, I didn't know what to expect. 126 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:30,510 So I went and took a OCA personality test. 127 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:39,510 And after it was evaluated, I find that I'm all along the bottom. 128 00:08:39,510 --> 00:08:45,510 The Scientologists then told me I had major troubles and could even die. 129 00:08:50,510 --> 00:08:54,510 Every thing is terrible unless you do Scientology, 130 00:08:54,510 --> 00:08:57,510 it's the only thing that's going to help you. 131 00:08:59,510 --> 00:09:06,510 Like noone before him, Duignan describes in detail the manipulation techniques, 132 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,520 the conditioning, the systematic spying on members 133 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:13,520 all this under the guise of being a "church". 134 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:19,320 Even the way Scientologists speak sounds martialistic. 135 00:09:21,020 --> 00:09:24,520 Hubbards dogmas are taught by auditors. 136 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,520 But what happens during this so-called auditing, 137 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,020 those regular interrogations using the e-meter? 138 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,020 Yes, it's an excercise... 139 00:09:32,420 --> 00:09:36,020 I need to explain something first, the so called Tone Forty. 140 00:09:36,020 --> 00:09:38,020 That's what Scientology calls it, 141 00:09:38,020 --> 00:09:43,020 and this tone is comparable to the tone of military drill sergeants. 142 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:50,030 This means there is no resistance when I say something. 143 00:09:50,030 --> 00:09:56,030 This is trained by using an ashtray, and you yell at the ashtray, 144 00:09:56,030 --> 00:09:59,030 "get up, sit down," being quite nice, 145 00:09:59,030 --> 00:10:02,030 you're helping the ashtray because ashtrays find it 146 00:10:02,030 --> 00:10:05,530 hard to get up and sit down. 147 00:10:05,530 --> 00:10:11,530 And the point of the exercise is to have complete control over someone else. 148 00:10:11,530 --> 00:10:15,530 An example is, you're made to sit down in front of 149 00:10:15,530 --> 00:10:20,530 another person and stare into its eyes. 150 00:10:20,530 --> 00:10:24,530 You are not allowed to move. 151 00:10:24,530 --> 00:10:29,530 And then these people swear at you and mock you. 152 00:10:31,540 --> 00:10:35,540 I was forced to give up my intuitive, normal behaviour and desires. 153 00:10:35,540 --> 00:10:40,540 Anyone under normal circumstances would react and protect himself. 154 00:10:45,540 --> 00:10:50,540 With that also a mental barrier breaks. 155 00:10:55,540 --> 00:11:01,540 I have given Scientology my complete consent to destroy me 156 00:11:01,540 --> 00:11:03,040 and that's what they did with me, 157 00:11:03,540 --> 00:11:08,540 that's the purpose of this routine in essence. 158 00:11:08,940 --> 00:11:13,540 A scientologist won't even blink, if you read him his death sentence. 159 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:17,540 The purpose of this training routine is that one lets 160 00:11:17,540 --> 00:11:21,540 everything happen to oneself without reacting in any way, 161 00:11:21,540 --> 00:11:25,540 neither physical by blinking or moving nor emotional. 162 00:11:25,550 --> 00:11:29,550 So that one completely numbs down. 163 00:11:29,550 --> 00:11:33,550 You won't necessarily recognize this, 164 00:11:33,550 --> 00:11:37,550 when you do the routine. 165 00:11:37,550 --> 00:11:40,550 The only thing you recognize is 166 00:11:40,550 --> 00:11:44,550 what they always tell you while doing this routine, 167 00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:48,250 that you are appearing very "cool" to the environment. 168 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:52,550 Austrian Exscientologist Wilfried Handel, 169 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:55,550 who held once a high position in the organisation, 170 00:11:55,550 --> 00:11:59,550 has a long history of suffering, 28 years. 171 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:01,550 Only in 2002 after a cancer treatment, 172 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:04,560 had he succeded in leaving. 173 00:12:04,860 --> 00:12:07,360 Scientology claims, they had dismissed Handel themselves. 174 00:12:10,660 --> 00:12:13,660 I led the organisation in Vienna, 175 00:12:13,660 --> 00:12:18,760 which was relatively big at that time 176 00:12:18,660 --> 00:12:23,660 with over 90 staff members and me being their executive director. 177 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,760 As he frankly says today himself, 178 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,560 he has participated in a system of total control. 179 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:33,560 He has believed in the e-meter. 180 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:36,560 Scientology is considering this a "religious" device. 181 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:44,560 The auditing sessions, so says Handel, are not so cheerful and relaxed, 182 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:48,560 how the scientology PR film wants to make us believe. 183 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:52,570 The organisation says: 184 00:12:54,970 --> 00:12:58,770 Auditing is the individual spiritual counseling in the Scientology church. 185 00:12:59,370 --> 00:13:01,970 The goal is the spiritual salvation of man. 186 00:13:02,270 --> 00:13:05,670 There are people who see this more profane. 187 00:13:06,970 --> 00:13:10,370 Hubbard states "the e-meter never lies, it's always right." 188 00:13:10,370 --> 00:13:14,370 And Scientology does assume that if someone doesn't reach a goal, 189 00:13:14,370 --> 00:13:17,270 independent of how realistic it is, 190 00:13:17,270 --> 00:13:20,370 that that person has to have a skeleton in his closet. 191 00:13:20,370 --> 00:13:25,370 This means, that he is being forced- how did he go wrong in the past, 192 00:13:25,370 --> 00:13:29,370 what are his crimes and he has got to put it on paper, 193 00:13:29,380 --> 00:13:33,380 no matter whether these were some youthful aberrations, 194 00:13:33,380 --> 00:13:38,380 whether these are sexual issues or whether these are some thoughts. 195 00:13:38,380 --> 00:13:42,380 So he's forced, as a first step, to write all of this down. 196 00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:44,380 You must have no withholds. 197 00:13:44,380 --> 00:13:46,380 There is no private area. 198 00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:55,380 When you masturbate, you have to tell it to Scientology, 199 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:56,380 but not only this: 200 00:13:56,380 --> 00:13:59,580 You also have to justify what you were thinking while masturbating. 201 00:13:59,580 --> 00:14:00,980 This is incredible. 202 00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:09,880 I have read a file about a pretty important woman within Scientology. 203 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:15,480 It said that she had had an orgasm last night, an orgasm with her husband. 204 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:20,480 How do I have any right to know of these sort of things? 205 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,480 What does it concern the "church" quote unquote of Scientology? 206 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,480 If the e-meter says: Nope, that guy still got skeletons in his closet, 207 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,480 which he doesn't want to see or which he doesn't want to admit to, 208 00:14:39,490 --> 00:14:42,490 then there is still the harsher punishment of a security check. 209 00:14:42,490 --> 00:14:46,490 This means that you sit behind the e-meter and get asked questions. 210 00:14:46,490 --> 00:14:49,490 These questions range from whether you have ever stolen anything 211 00:14:49,490 --> 00:14:51,490 to whether you were ever in fear of the police or also 212 00:14:51,490 --> 00:14:54,490 whether you ever had any bad thoughts on L. Ron Hubbard. 213 00:14:54,490 --> 00:14:58,490 Whether you ever had any bad thoughts on other Scientologists. 214 00:14:58,490 --> 00:15:01,490 So in principle, it takes hours. 215 00:15:02,490 --> 00:15:05,790 You're being interrogated on everything you have 216 00:15:05,790 --> 00:15:08,790 and only if you receive the final ok, 217 00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:10,790 the permission that you are clean 218 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:13,000 according to the e-meter 219 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,000 The e-meter determines what is and what isn't. 220 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,200 And if the e-meter agrees, you are sort of liberated, 221 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,600 but this doesn't mean that you won't sit in front of 222 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,200 the e-meter again three weeks from now. 223 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:26,200 These auditing sessions are one of the most central 224 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,200 psycho techniques which are used in Scientology, 225 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,200 they also transform people into a state, 226 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,200 in which they don't even know what they are actually doing, 227 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,000 or what they are saying. 228 00:15:39,310 --> 00:15:41,710 You really have to get the idea, that this way, 229 00:15:41,710 --> 00:15:44,710 the transparent human is being created. 230 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:47,710 This stuff is not put into the rubbish bin, 231 00:15:47,710 --> 00:15:49,510 it goes into the file afterwards. 232 00:15:50,510 --> 00:15:54,510 How to confront the scientologic danger? 233 00:15:54,510 --> 00:15:57,510 New York's anonymous, those with the masks, 234 00:15:57,510 --> 00:16:00,510 have found their very own answer: 235 00:16:00,510 --> 00:16:03,510 Education by means of cleverness and satire. 236 00:16:03,510 --> 00:16:06,510 On the internet and on the streets. 237 00:16:06,510 --> 00:16:09,510 Spontaneous actions, humorous attacks, 238 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,520 which the religious corporation doesn't enjoy at all. 239 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Over there, they fear the masked people like the devil fears the holy water. 240 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,920 Scientology has a solution for virtually everything, 241 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,920 except for joking and irony. 242 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,920 The only way to deal with people that have such 243 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,120 an exaggerated self-image such as the Scientologists, is to make fun of them. 244 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,120 We don't want to persecute these people and we don't hate them either, 245 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,620 we simply make fun of them. 246 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,620 Scientology is a serious organisation, 247 00:16:51,620 --> 00:16:55,620 satire and humour are absolutely dangerous to it. 248 00:16:56,630 --> 00:17:00,130 It contradicts their claim to supress people's thoughts. 249 00:17:03,330 --> 00:17:06,430 Scientology is outraged. A statement says: 250 00:17:07,530 --> 00:17:09,730 "Anonymous are cyber-terrorists, 251 00:17:09,730 --> 00:17:14,830 hiding their identities behind masks and the internet's anonymity, 252 00:17:14,830 --> 00:17:19,530 they are persecuting Scientology with hate speech and hate crimes." 253 00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:24,530 But the fun movement seems to be almost unstoppable. 254 00:17:24,530 --> 00:17:28,830 The dreaded mask-bearers have advanced even into the sunshine state of Florida. 255 00:17:28,830 --> 00:17:31,830 Clearwater, the Scientologists' mekka 256 00:17:31,830 --> 00:17:36,830 the, quote unquote, "spiritual center" of the Church of Scientology. 257 00:17:38,530 --> 00:17:42,530 The pompous architecture suggests: "There's nothing that may shake us". 258 00:17:45,340 --> 00:17:46,540 Or is there? 259 00:17:46,540 --> 00:17:48,540 March 13th 2008. 260 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:50,540 It's something like christmas day to Scientologists. 261 00:17:50,540 --> 00:17:55,540 L. Ron Hubbard's birthday. He would have turned 97 that day. 262 00:17:55,540 --> 00:17:58,540 Around 100 anonymous intend to congratulate in their fashion 263 00:17:58,540 --> 00:18:02,540 and prepare for a fun-filled protest march to the Scientology central. 264 00:18:07,340 --> 00:18:10,540 May Hubbard's adherents sit in front of their e-meters, 265 00:18:10,540 --> 00:18:13,540 summon the thetan, the eternal spirit, 266 00:18:13,540 --> 00:18:17,540 and may they keep on auditing until the last orgasm has been brought to paper. 267 00:18:17,540 --> 00:18:19,640 The masked people prefer to do a masquerade. 268 00:18:19,650 --> 00:18:22,350 Suddenly the colossus has become very small. 269 00:18:25,050 --> 00:18:28,850 The organisation's adherents clearly feel annoyed by the protesters. 270 00:18:28,850 --> 00:18:31,850 "Fair Game". That's a code word used by Hubbard, 271 00:18:31,850 --> 00:18:34,850 which was still in use very recently in training materials. 272 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:40,750 When they have assigned the state of "fair game" to someone, 273 00:18:40,750 --> 00:18:42,350 that person is like an animal to them, 274 00:18:42,350 --> 00:18:45,350 which they have to get rid of or kill. 275 00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:48,350 He may be attacked and insulted. He is ostracized. 276 00:18:48,350 --> 00:18:51,350 Scientologists may consciously do damage to him 277 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:53,050 without being punished for it by the church. 278 00:18:53,460 --> 00:18:54,560 What the outcome of a fair little "fair game" such as this may be, 279 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,560 can be learned from the sad case of the man, 280 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,560 who was the owner of this ancient limousine. 281 00:19:02,060 --> 00:19:05,060 In February 2008 he took his life by using 282 00:19:05,060 --> 00:19:08,060 a pipe directing car exhaust fumes into his living room. 283 00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:11,160 His name was Shawn Lonsdale, 284 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,160 one of the most prominent Scientology critics in Clearwater. 285 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,160 Important witness for a BBC TV documentary in 2007. 286 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,160 During the interview a Scientology staff member appears 287 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,660 and reads to the interviewer from a dossier. 288 00:19:25,670 --> 00:19:28,970 Lonsdale had once been dependent on drugs 289 00:19:28,970 --> 00:19:31,970 and had worked as a male prostitute. 290 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:35,270 Lonsdale answered: "Did Scientology help me at that time?" 291 00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:43,270 For some years the avid photographer and videographer 292 00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:45,870 had been a thorn in Scientology's side. 293 00:19:45,870 --> 00:19:48,870 Lonsdale himself documented, how they persecuted him. 294 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:51,870 "Fair Game" around the city they placed small wanted posters 295 00:19:51,870 --> 00:19:55,870 informing about Lonsdale's past. 296 00:19:55,870 --> 00:19:58,870 Lonsdale never obscured his past, 297 00:19:58,870 --> 00:20:01,070 which he had left behind a long time ago. 298 00:20:01,070 --> 00:20:03,270 But now he didn't have any rights. 299 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,280 They have humiliated him, they declared him to be an enemy, 300 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,280 allegedly doing propaganda against them. 301 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,280 They had convinced other people to avoid him 302 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,880 and to no longer speak to him. 303 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,880 What did Lonsdale do? 304 00:20:24,980 --> 00:20:26,980 He filmed and distributed flyers. 305 00:20:26,980 --> 00:20:30,380 Scientology denounced him because of this, 306 00:20:30,380 --> 00:20:32,380 even to his employer. 307 00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:36,380 Scientology did inform you about his past? 308 00:20:39,380 --> 00:20:41,380 What do you think of this method? 309 00:20:47,380 --> 00:20:49,380 Well, I don't think it's normal. 310 00:20:53,390 --> 00:20:56,390 I think Scientology was very worried that 311 00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:59,390 Shawn Lonsdale may damage their reputation. 312 00:20:59,690 --> 00:21:02,390 These people wanted me to let my employee down. 313 00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:14,390 Scientology denies any responsibility 314 00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:16,390 for the death of poor Shawn Lonsdale. 315 00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:20,390 There had been no contact recently they say. 316 00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:24,390 However, his friends say that he never recovered from the attacks 317 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:27,890 by the Scientologists, from the public exposure of himself. 318 00:21:33,890 --> 00:21:36,890 Scientology critic's lives are dangerous at times. 319 00:21:36,890 --> 00:21:39,890 Years ago, Ursula Caberta experienced this as well. 320 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:42,500 As she arrived at the Tampa airport, 321 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:45,500 a horde of outraged Scientologists were at the gate already. 322 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:46,900 She gave her talk anyway. 323 00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:58,900 Ursula Caberta, sect commissioner of the 324 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:01,900 Hamburg senate with a focus on Scientology, 325 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:04,900 is the german main subject of hate for the organisation. 326 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:07,700 Some of her colleagues have given up a long time ago due to attrition. 327 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:12,500 There have been many, many people, all of them have given up. 328 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:17,500 That's because it is hard to tell all that happens to you. 329 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:21,500 You see, it's not like there's someone with a gun in front of your door. 330 00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:26,510 But when you go home, people jump out from behind bushes 331 00:22:26,510 --> 00:22:29,510 and say "You are Caberta, right!" Such things. 332 00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:33,510 Or death threats on the phone, harassment and such things. 333 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:37,510 Or, you're sitting in a restaurant, talking about something 334 00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:41,510 and the next day what you may just have said 335 00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:45,510 ends on the computer of the mayor of Hamburg. 336 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:49,510 And it is intentional that you realize this is happening 337 00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:52,610 you ought to understand, "we're watching you", that is the message. 338 00:22:52,810 --> 00:22:54,410 Hubbard wrote: 339 00:22:54,810 --> 00:22:58,510 "The criminal abhors daylight. And we are the daylight. ... 340 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,520 Every time we have investigated the background 341 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,520 of a critic of Scientology, we have found crimes ... 342 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,520 If you oppose Scientology we promptly look you up 343 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,520 and will find and expose your crimes." 344 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,520 So some prefer not to criticize. 345 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,920 The main thing in Scientology is control. 346 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,920 So, one might put it that way, 347 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,620 control is the foundation on which the entire thing is built. 348 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,520 Everyone controls everyone. 349 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,520 The wife controls the husband, 350 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:27,830 children control the parents, 351 00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:29,330 parents control the children. 352 00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:31,730 That's because life may only consist of what Hubbard wrote. 353 00:23:31,730 --> 00:23:34,130 Nothing else must be part of it. 354 00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:37,030 They also report to each other who is complaining. 355 00:23:37,030 --> 00:23:39,030 So, the entire system is also designed to ensure 356 00:23:39,030 --> 00:23:41,530 complete control between each other, 357 00:23:40,930 --> 00:23:44,630 because if someone does not tell that someone complained, 358 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:49,330 then that person has also become culpable in the Scientology system. 359 00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:56,330 I still get upset about it. 360 00:23:56,340 --> 00:23:59,340 It hurts me to think about this time. 361 00:23:59,340 --> 00:24:03,340 You're caught there. Your soul is being imprisoned there. 362 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,340 I've been around the world for Scientology, 363 00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:14,340 but I was never free, because I was always 364 00:24:14,340 --> 00:24:17,340 and constantly bound to this organisation and had to report to it. 365 00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:22,340 Who is working at Scientology leads 366 00:24:22,340 --> 00:24:26,240 according to ex-members it's a life under constant pressure. 367 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,740 There is festidious keeping of statistics, week after week, 368 00:24:29,740 --> 00:24:32,740 each thursday, there has to be a proof of performance. 369 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,540 Above all it is necessary to get new members to join. 370 00:24:36,540 --> 00:24:40,140 Whoever doesn't fulfill the target statistic has to work longer. 371 00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:45,150 The system is really easy. 372 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:47,150 You make people hungry and make sure 373 00:24:47,150 --> 00:24:49,150 that they stay focused on Scientology. 374 00:24:50,150 --> 00:24:54,650 But in the back of their mind they are constantly afraid 375 00:24:54,650 --> 00:25:00,650 to have no time for their children, in case they won't be succesful. 376 00:25:00,650 --> 00:25:04,950 Or to get no payment, should their statistics, their numbers go down. 377 00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:07,450 I scrubbed lobby the whole night through, 378 00:25:07,450 --> 00:25:09,550 just because I had a bad statistic. 379 00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:13,050 I would have done anything to sell these auditing seminars. 380 00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:21,050 They work like busy ants. 381 00:25:22,060 --> 00:25:25,060 Ex-members call it pure exploitation. 382 00:25:25,060 --> 00:25:28,660 The working hours of more than 12 per day would regularly occur. 383 00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:31,660 Everyday life in the Berlin Scientology center 384 00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:35,660 as well as the recruitment strategies were recently investigated by 385 00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:39,260 undercover journalist Fredy Gareis in a daredevil research project. 386 00:25:40,260 --> 00:25:42,260 They are being told for example that, 387 00:25:42,260 --> 00:25:45,260 if they spend a lot of money, they can cure cancer, 388 00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:48,660 they will be able to cure their own cancer, they can prolong their life. 389 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:49,660 "if they spend money"- how is that? 390 00:25:49,660 --> 00:25:51,160 Do you mean if they donate a lot to the organisation? 391 00:25:51,170 --> 00:25:54,170 No. If they move up the bridge to enlightenment. 392 00:25:54,170 --> 00:25:58,170 If they become clear, if they pass clear, then they can heal cancer. 393 00:25:58,170 --> 00:26:02,170 That is of course... you can't tell people such things. 394 00:26:02,170 --> 00:26:06,170 It won't be accurate at all, that you can then cure cancer. 395 00:26:06,170 --> 00:26:10,170 When people are being told such things and when this is also 396 00:26:10,170 --> 00:26:13,870 being used as a motivation for them to spend more and more 397 00:26:13,870 --> 00:26:17,170 money to move up the bridge, then I think that is very dangerous. 398 00:26:18,170 --> 00:26:21,570 A few days ago the son of Scientologist John Travolta died. 399 00:26:21,570 --> 00:26:25,570 He was (it is alleged by media around the world) mentally ill. 400 00:26:25,570 --> 00:26:28,570 But Scientology opposes any psychiatric treatment, 401 00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:30,180 psychiatric drugs even more. 402 00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:34,180 Has Jett possibly become a victim of Scientology? 403 00:26:34,180 --> 00:26:39,080 Scientology denies this, but there are many that think differently. 404 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,080 I think that the most dangerous thing is if Scientology 405 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,080 commits grieveous bodily harm. 406 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,080 They deny their members any medical treatment if they are 407 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,080 mentally or neurologically ill. They oppose such treatment. 408 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,080 Hamburg. Probably the most important place of activity for 409 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,780 german Scientologists, second only to Berlin. 410 00:27:10,780 --> 00:27:15,780 Around 1000 members are being controlled from here. 411 00:27:21,790 --> 00:27:24,790 She was sick and thought, she could be healed from her suffering 412 00:27:24,790 --> 00:27:26,790 with the help of Scientology, 413 00:27:26,790 --> 00:27:29,790 which offers its own purification program. 414 00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:34,790 Money wasn't that important for me back then. 415 00:27:34,790 --> 00:27:37,790 Well, I found it more interesting to just do this 416 00:27:37,790 --> 00:27:40,790 purfication program, given that I suffer from chronic sniffles, 417 00:27:40,790 --> 00:27:44,790 I am allergic and I thought this would help me. 418 00:27:45,290 --> 00:27:45,990 Did it help? 419 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:46,990 No. 420 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,000 How did you explain this to yourself? 421 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 I mean, you pay 5.000 Deutschmarks 422 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000 and then nothing comes out of it. 423 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,000 You must have had some sort of explanation for this. 424 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Didn't you grow impatient? 425 00:27:57,500 --> 00:27:59,300 No, as there was the next solution for this. 426 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,500 Which one? 427 00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:01,400 Auditing. 428 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,800 Would you please describe... well, you sat at the e-meter then. 429 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,800 Would you please describe how that worked? 430 00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:08,800 Well, you sit before the e-meter, 431 00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:10,410 you have these cans in your hands 432 00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:12,810 and you are being asked specific questions. 433 00:28:12,810 --> 00:28:16,810 If someone is ill, that person is a PTS person on principle, 434 00:28:16,810 --> 00:28:19,810 so there is a connection to a suppressive. 435 00:28:19,810 --> 00:28:24,810 This suppressive may exist in reality in this life or in a past life. 436 00:28:28,510 --> 00:28:28,810 And did you find something then? 437 00:28:29,310 --> 00:28:31,310 Yes, I found several things. 438 00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:32,710 That is to say, several suppressives. 439 00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:39,710 It was like an drug alledge those that know the corporation from within. 440 00:28:39,710 --> 00:28:43,710 The longer you were there, the harder it became to manage to leave. 441 00:28:44,410 --> 00:28:48,710 Scientology made their members psychologically dependent. 442 00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:50,520 So it is enhanced relatively quickly. 443 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,520 It starts with 20 euro 444 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,520 and then all of a sudden you are at 1.500 euros 445 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,520 and then all of a sudden you are at 50.000 euros. 446 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,920 This happens within a time of maybe 1 or 2 years. 447 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,920 The bridge to enlightenment has more steps than you would like. 448 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,920 And each step brings you closer to the first boundary, Clear. 449 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,420 There are also costs involved. 450 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:17,120 Of course. Each step costs money, 451 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,920 i.e. each step taken on the level costs money 452 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,920 and this bridge to enlightenment is the only way 453 00:29:22,930 --> 00:29:25,930 to total freedom in this universe according to Hubbard. 454 00:29:26,430 --> 00:29:28,530 It also depends a bit on who you are. 455 00:29:28,530 --> 00:29:32,430 So, if someone is considered to be a celebrity, 456 00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:35,430 someone in that sense, who is thus important, 457 00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:39,430 then that person becomes a Clear faster and with less expenses than the others. 458 00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:42,430 "The rank and file members have to work longer?" 459 00:29:42,430 --> 00:29:44,430 The rank and file members have to clown around longer. 460 00:29:44,430 --> 00:29:46,130 And then they may never become clear. 461 00:29:47,030 --> 00:29:48,630 Let's say you take a dog, 462 00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:51,630 and you put a small stick to his collar 463 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,640 and at the end of that stick you put a sausage. 464 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,640 For how long will that dog keep running? 465 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,640 It's just the same with a Scientologist. 466 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640 We've seen it time and again, 467 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,640 that the Scientologists won't let go of people at all 468 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,640 unless they have wasted all their money 469 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,640 for the organisation or also all of their family's assets. 470 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,640 They also don't shy away from reaching 471 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,640 into other people's pockets, I'd put it this way: 472 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,640 Any credit report from a bank is outright discreet 473 00:30:22,650 --> 00:30:24,150 compared to Scientology. 474 00:30:24,150 --> 00:30:25,650 They really screen you completely 475 00:30:25,650 --> 00:30:26,950 "how does this manifest itself?" 476 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:29,650 They don't only ask how many credit cards you have, 477 00:30:29,650 --> 00:30:32,650 how many accounts you have, how much is on them, 478 00:30:32,650 --> 00:30:34,650 what is the financial situation in your family, 479 00:30:34,650 --> 00:30:37,650 are there any inheritances to be expected, 480 00:30:37,650 --> 00:30:40,650 is there a house which you may mortgage? 481 00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:43,650 Actually they, I know this from my own past as an example, 482 00:30:43,650 --> 00:30:46,650 it goes as far as accompanying the person to the bank. 483 00:30:46,660 --> 00:30:48,660 So, I've gone to the bank with some, to directly get 484 00:30:48,660 --> 00:30:51,660 the money from there after they have gotten it, 485 00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:54,660 so they don't get any stupid ideas, 486 00:30:54,660 --> 00:30:57,660 such as spending the money for something else 487 00:30:57,660 --> 00:30:58,660 on their way to Scientology, 488 00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:02,460 so that it adds directly to Scientology's cash. 489 00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:08,060 But who can afford the expensive courses at Scientology? 490 00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:11,960 "Everyone" says Scientology. Our doors are open. 491 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,460 anyone that does not have money for the Hubbard lessons, 492 00:31:14,460 --> 00:31:17,560 has to become a staff member and bind himself by contract 493 00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:19,870 for years to the organisation. 494 00:31:19,870 --> 00:31:22,870 This actually has a detering effect. 495 00:31:33,070 --> 00:31:34,370 I didn't have money, 496 00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:36,870 I was just a young Irishman traveling about. 497 00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:39,870 So they suggested to me to become a staff member, 498 00:31:39,870 --> 00:31:41,870 so I would work for my auditing sessions. 499 00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:47,870 Those that have money are being fleeced and the others, 500 00:31:47,870 --> 00:31:50,870 those that have no money, may become staff members. 501 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:53,870 The main reason why a person becomes a staff member: 502 00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:56,870 He gets the courses and the auditing in Scientology for free. 503 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,880 And as I didn't have money back then, 504 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,880 my path was thus predetermined: I became a staff member. 505 00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:04,480 Well, I had to earn money and so I worked 506 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,480 at a Scientology Org from 8:30 am to 2:30 pm, 507 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,480 before driving to the organisation 508 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,480 and there I always worked until 11:30 pm. 509 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,980 "So you worked from early in the morning to 11:30pm." 510 00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:21,980 "Did Scientology at least pay you appropriately?" 511 00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:24,980 No, of course not. 512 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,980 "How much did you earn?" 513 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:29,990 Well, I earned between 30 and 60 Deutschmarks a week. 514 00:32:30,590 --> 00:32:31,990 So you may understand, 515 00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:34,990 not only are you unable to pay a rent from 30 Euros a week, 516 00:32:34,990 --> 00:32:37,990 you can't even pay the cigarettes that you might need. 517 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:39,690 This means that most need a second job. 518 00:32:40,290 --> 00:32:42,690 You get up in the morning, see to it that you get to work, 519 00:32:42,690 --> 00:32:45,690 earn a little money, so it's part time, 520 00:32:45,690 --> 00:32:50,690 then you drive to the org and work for your statistics 521 00:32:50,690 --> 00:32:54,690 and see to it that you reach the goal, the goal of the week, 522 00:32:54,690 --> 00:32:57,690 the month and the total goal, just to clear the planet. 523 00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:03,700 It keeps you working in such a focused manner, 524 00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:06,700 that everything else became unimportant to me, 525 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,700 even my friends and my partner in life. 526 00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:11,200 "There was only Scientology?" 527 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,200 Right. Within a few weeks time, in only two months, 528 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,200 I was only surrounded by Scientology and Scientologists. 529 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,200 Scientology around the clock. That was my life. 530 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200 Who wants to break free may even have to face, 531 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,200 under certain circumstances, a camp. 532 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,200 A stay at the "Rehabilitation Project Force", in short RPF. 533 00:33:39,210 --> 00:33:43,210 Especially the 5.000 members of the elite unit Sea Org 534 00:33:43,210 --> 00:33:45,210 are made to tow the line here. 535 00:33:46,210 --> 00:33:49,210 There's a lot of speculation about these camps, 536 00:33:49,210 --> 00:33:52,710 whose existence is not being denied by the organisation. 537 00:33:53,210 --> 00:33:54,710 Here are the dark facts: 538 00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:57,610 "What do you know about these penal camps?" 539 00:33:58,110 --> 00:34:03,610 Well, I took part in one myself, however this was in Copenhagen. 540 00:34:03,610 --> 00:34:05,610 It is very strictly organized, 541 00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:09,610 e.g. you are not allowed to talk to anyone who is not inside 542 00:34:09,610 --> 00:34:14,610 this penal camp and you may only move through the facility 543 00:34:14,620 --> 00:34:18,620 or Copenhagen running, you have to do hard manual labor, 544 00:34:18,620 --> 00:34:21,620 which really exhausts you. 545 00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:25,620 You have no choice. 546 00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:28,620 They tell you "You're a dog, you're a pig". 547 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:33,620 They destroy any form of self-respect 548 00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:37,620 until you finally feel like a dog or a pig. 549 00:34:38,620 --> 00:34:40,620 Then you won't refuse to go to the camp. 550 00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:46,620 "So, how much time do you spend there?" 551 00:34:46,020 --> 00:34:50,020 Well, I was there for 14 days, in the more severe camp, 552 00:34:50,020 --> 00:34:54,020 which is in the USA, there you are 2-3 years. 553 00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:57,620 Well, I have met two "graduates" 554 00:34:57,620 --> 00:35:02,620 quote unquote, of these camps, in England. 555 00:35:02,620 --> 00:35:05,420 And what struck me, back then I was still a Scientologist, 556 00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:10,030 these are extremely empty people, de-individuized. 557 00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:15,030 There is nothing to be seen of any personality, they are, 558 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:18,030 if one wants to put it that way, robots. 559 00:35:18,030 --> 00:35:22,030 And you may get an idea how this comes about when you consider: 560 00:35:22,030 --> 00:35:26,030 They have something between 10 to 15 hours of labor each day, 561 00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:30,030 then they also have to study Hubbard's writings 562 00:35:30,030 --> 00:35:33,030 and in the small time that remains, they are allowed to sleep. 563 00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:36,030 The food is more or less waste. 564 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:39,030 "Why does one go through this?" 565 00:35:40,030 --> 00:35:43,030 That's this inner-scientologic pressure. 566 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,040 You don't want to lose that bridge to freedom. 567 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,040 You know, you feel that if you loose that bridge 568 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,440 you will drop dead. And you are afraid of this. 569 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,440 In Autumn of 2007 the ministers of interior of the states 570 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,440 decided to enhance the observation of the cult and to be more 571 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,440 targeted in its intent of introducing in the following 572 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,440 year investigative proceedings for a ban of Scientology. 573 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,440 "The association was exploiting people 574 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,440 and is not compatible with our constitution", they said. 575 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,440 It is completely clear that Scientology is a system, 576 00:36:19,450 --> 00:36:22,450 which is not grounded in our constitution, 577 00:36:22,450 --> 00:36:26,450 but an organization, which has an anti-constitutional stance. 578 00:36:29,050 --> 00:36:31,650 Feverish investigations began in all the states. 579 00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:34,450 Do 6.000 to 8.000 Scientologists actually 580 00:36:34,450 --> 00:36:37,450 pose a threat to our lawful state? 581 00:36:37,450 --> 00:36:38,650 We investigate. 582 00:36:38,650 --> 00:36:40,650 What were the results of the investigations 583 00:36:40,650 --> 00:36:42,650 by the Offices for the Protection of the Constitution? 584 00:36:43,550 --> 00:36:47,650 There is no need to actually fear a threat or a danger 585 00:36:47,650 --> 00:36:51,650 to our society through a really large or really substantial 586 00:36:51,660 --> 00:36:55,660 re-organisation of our society according to scientologic rules, 587 00:36:57,660 --> 00:37:01,660 however, I'm of the opinion that a continuation 588 00:37:01,660 --> 00:37:05,660 of the observation by the OPC is appropriate. 589 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:11,660 So the proceedings against Scientology were toned down 590 00:37:11,660 --> 00:37:14,660 on the last annual conference of the interior ministers 591 00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:18,660 due to necessity. There was no majority for a request for a ban. 592 00:37:18,660 --> 00:37:21,660 Only Bavaria and Hamburg still hope for it. 593 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:24,660 But the OPC is still watching Hubbard's adherents. 594 00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:28,660 The OPC has found material from Scientology's history, 595 00:37:28,660 --> 00:37:30,660 from their publications, which show us, 596 00:37:30,670 --> 00:37:33,670 what type of organisation we have here. 597 00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:35,670 That does not change, but the OPC didn't find such 598 00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:39,670 grieveous criminal or other offences, that we would say, 599 00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:43,670 you can only answer those with a ban. 600 00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:46,670 We think it's better to fight such an organisation 601 00:37:46,670 --> 00:37:48,170 in an aggressive public way. 602 00:37:49,470 --> 00:37:52,170 Education, that's the interior ministers' approach, 603 00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:54,170 is more important than a ban. 604 00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:56,170 It's important to make the discrepancy visible, 605 00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:58,170 existing between the world of Scientology 606 00:37:58,180 --> 00:38:00,180 advertisment films and the everyday life within 607 00:38:00,180 --> 00:38:02,180 the organisation, to do it in schools, 608 00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:05,180 in companies and last but not least in the media. 609 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,680 There's something to be learned 610 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,380 from the experiences of the ex-members. 611 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:12,880 For me, it has simply been a painful experience, 612 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,880 which I don't want to go through again, 613 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,880 which I don't wish even for my worst enemy to experience. 614 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,880 And I'm just happy, that I've managed to get out of there 615 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,880 and that I can live my life now. 616 00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:25,890 "So, you are not clear or clean?" 617 00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:28,890 Exactly. 618 00:38:31,690 --> 00:38:33,890 I've decided I would go to university, 619 00:38:33,890 --> 00:38:35,890 even though I'm that old. 620 00:38:35,890 --> 00:38:37,890 I had to learn to think normal again. 621 00:38:37,890 --> 00:38:40,890 I didn't even know what "normal" was. 622 00:38:41,390 --> 00:38:43,390 And now I have the possibility to regain a 623 00:38:43,390 --> 00:38:46,390 piece of normality with the help of wonderful professors. 624 00:38:49,390 --> 00:38:52,390 Well, bans only make people curious. 625 00:38:53,390 --> 00:38:54,390 I think it's way more important to make 626 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,400 politicians cognizant of Scientology's existence, 627 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,400 of Scientologists' goals, how they approach people. 628 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,400 Scientology is an association. 629 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,400 This association ought to be banned according 630 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,400 to the constitution, 631 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,400 because it is directed against the criminal law. 632 00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:18,400 This can be demonstrated when it comes to 633 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,400 the topic of practising usury, they exploit their employees, 634 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,400 they practise usury with their courses, 635 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,400 they violate the laws for practising madicine, 636 00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:30,410 and there are some other paragraphs concerning 637 00:39:30,410 --> 00:39:33,410 fraud that could be mentioned. 638 00:39:34,210 --> 00:39:37,410 Why is there a state when anyone can do anything? 639 00:39:37,410 --> 00:39:40,410 And the main problem is that most people don't know 640 00:39:40,410 --> 00:39:43,410 what Scientology is about, so you have to act 641 00:39:43,410 --> 00:39:46,410 with care when dealing with it. 642 00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:49,410 And I wouldn't ban Scientology outright either. 643 00:39:49,410 --> 00:39:53,410 I would go and simply take a look at the 644 00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:57,410 specific techniques or the specific courses 645 00:39:57,410 --> 00:40:00,410 that they offer and then I would ban those. 646 00:40:02,420 --> 00:40:05,420 I'm still angry and I will also never forgive Scientology 647 00:40:05,420 --> 00:40:07,420 for what they have done to me. 648 00:40:08,420 --> 00:40:11,420 But, as it's usual in liberal Europe, they ought to have 649 00:40:11,420 --> 00:40:15,320 the right to meet and to organise themselves as a group. 650 00:40:15,820 --> 00:40:17,720 However, this does not mean that they may deceive people. 651 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:26,720 In the opinion of many experts, from theologians above all, 652 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,720 the "church" label with which the scientologist association 653 00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,720 decorates itself so gladly is completely misleading. 654 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:34,720 Nobody will be able to prevent a citizen of age 655 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,720 to step inside this organization and to give it a lot of money. 656 00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:40,730 It is just that this very terrestrial enterprise 657 00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:42,730 has little to do with spirituality, 658 00:40:42,730 --> 00:40:45,730 with the questions about things beyond the Here and Now. 659 00:40:51,730 --> 00:40:53,730 The protestant minister Thomas Gandow, 660 00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:57,230 a long-time critic and therefore attacked by the organization 661 00:40:57,230 --> 00:41:00,130 also at a personal level, feels lampooned as a Christian 662 00:41:00,130 --> 00:41:04,130 when an association such as Scientology labels itself "church". 663 00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:15,130 Scientology uses the word "church" to deceive people. 664 00:41:15,130 --> 00:41:19,130 Because people then think, OK, that must be something religious. 665 00:41:20,130 --> 00:41:24,130 That is however not only as it were a trademark abuse, 666 00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:27,140 as if someone describes a brown drink "Coca Cola", 667 00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:30,340 but it concerns a faith issue here. 668 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,340 "Church" is not simply only our company name, 669 00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:38,340 but that is a part of our belief system. 670 00:41:38,340 --> 00:41:42,340 We believe in the holy general Christian church. 671 00:41:44,340 --> 00:41:49,340 And if someone uses the term of the church for extortion, 672 00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:54,340 interrogation, suppression of people, totalitarian penetration 673 00:41:54,340 --> 00:41:57,340 to develop, that is an abuse 674 00:41:57,340 --> 00:42:01,340 and brings dishonor on the word "church". 675 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,340 For me to be completely clear 676 00:42:03,340 --> 00:42:05,340 Scientology is not a religious community, 677 00:42:06,350 --> 00:42:08,350 but a financial group, 678 00:42:08,350 --> 00:42:10,650 which wants to get the people into its power 679 00:42:10,650 --> 00:42:13,350 and then systematically exploit them, 680 00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:16,550 a most undemocratic association, but no church. 681 00:42:18,350 --> 00:42:19,750 Well, if Scientology is a church, 682 00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:21,650 then the mafia is also a church. 683 00:42:23,650 --> 00:42:24,650 "Why?" 684 00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:27,650 It gives people a meaning in their life 685 00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:30,650 thus if one is with the mafia, one can become drug dealer 686 00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:33,650 or courier, or take care of money laundering; 687 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:35,360 it gives real advancement opportunities; 688 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,660 Scientology is similar to that. 689 00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:41,660 Pictures of yesterday evening. 690 00:42:41,660 --> 00:42:44,660 German premiere of Operation Valkyrie in Berlin. 691 00:42:47,660 --> 00:42:49,260 Tom Cruise, playing Stauffenberg 692 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:51,760 and top scientologist, attends the party. 693 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,760 Not far from it, uninvited masked people are gathering. 694 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,760 The Anonymous movement has reached Germany. 695 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,760 The fun partisans are here. 696 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,760 They have perhaps found the best prescription 697 00:43:04,770 --> 00:43:06,770 for handling Scientology: 698 00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:11,270 Education and cheerful laughter. 699 00:43:30,270 --> 00:43:30,480 T 700 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:30,700 Th 701 00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:30,920 The 702 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,140 The c 703 00:43:31,140 --> 00:43:31,350 The ca 704 00:43:31,350 --> 00:43:31,570 The cak 705 00:43:31,570 --> 00:43:31,790 The cake 706 00:43:31,790 --> 00:43:32,000 The cake i 707 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,220 The cake is 708 00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:32,440 The cake is n 709 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:32,650 The cake is ne 710 00:43:32,650 --> 00:43:32,870 The cake is nev 711 00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:33,090 The cake is neve 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