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Connaissant parfaitement la scientologie de l'intérieur nous savons que cette organisation endoctrine ses adeptes au point de leur faire croire que les maladies mentales peuvent être traitées sans aucun recours aux médecins psychiatres. Les médecins psychiatres selon la propagande de la scientologie (voir la video du discours de David Miscavige ci-dessous) sont des incapables et des criminels. (sic) Jett Travolta souffrait-il d'autisme ? Nous avons de sérieux doutes sur la capacité des auditeurs de scientologie (des non-médecins) ainsi que des scientologues comme John Travolta pour diagnostiquer correctement ce dont souffrait JettTravolta. La croyance de la scientologie amène les adeptes à penser que les enfants sont des adultes. Par exemple nous avons observé dans des familles scientologues que les enfants sont souvent seuls alors qu'un jeune devrait être surveillé lorsqu'il reste par exemple des dizaines de minutes dans sa salle de bain ... Aussi nous avons observé que les scientologues ne cessent de dire à leurs enfants: "c'est toi qui sais", avec comme sous-entendu l'injonction: "tu n'as qu'à appliquer 'la tech de Ron Hubbard' ou aller lire ce qu'il demande de faire dans cette situation." Selon JOEY Travolta, le frère de John Travolta - qui connaissait bien le sujet - John Tavolta et sa famille étaient dans une position de déni par rapport à l'autisme dont souffrait Jett Travolta du fait de leur appartance à la scientologie. Cf. cet article en anglais L'article fait référence à un transcript de Kelly Preston qui s'exprimait longuement sur le sujet dans un reportage intitulé: "Kelly Preston: a mother Crusade". Kelly Preston créditait le «Purification rundown» de la scientologie d'une amélioration dans l'état de santé de son fils ! Il nous semble qu'un tel traitement n'est pas ce qu'il y a de plus indiqué pour une personne souffrant de crise d'épilepsie ce qui semble être la cause du décès de Jett Travolta. Endoctrinés par la scientologie, John et Kelly ont-ils vraiment tout fait pour soigner leur enfant? John
Travolta
est sans doute un bon père mais en tant que scientologue
a-t-il vraiment bien évalué la situation de son
fils de 13 ans ? Selon un récent témoignage
d'un médecin il n'est pas normal qu'un médecin
interrompe subitement le traitement qui avait été
prescrit à Jett. (Traitement avec du Depakote On peut raisonnablement en douter lorsque l'on sait comment la scientologie conditionne ses adeptes jusqu'à leur interdire l'utilisation de certains médicaments psychiatriques et s'en prendre publiquement dans des campagne agressives et haineuses à la médecine psychiatrique. Si la scientologie est responsable de ce drame John Travolta et sa femme ont maintenant une bonne raison pour quitter la scientologie: une organisation criminogène qui promet la guérison et qui vend une thérapie plus que nocive sans la moindre efficacité. Encore faut-il que John Travolta et sa femme ouvrent les yeux. Le Gravis, le 10 janvier 2008 Vidéo: Une vidéo montre l'état dans lequel se trouvait Jett Travolta peu avant son décès Jett Travolta a succombé à une attaque
L'autopsie du corps de Jett Travolta a révélé lundi que l'adolescent avait succombé à une attaque, et que son corps ne présentait aucun signe de traumatisme crânien, contrairement aux affirmations de la police des Bahamas et de sa famille, selon plusieurs médias américains. Le fils âgé de 16 ans de l'acteur américain John Travolta
a été emporté par une "attaque", a indiqué sans plus de précision le site
internet people.com, qui s'appuie sur des sources proches de la famille.
La police des Bahamas, où séjournait la famille, a indiqué à l'AFP que le
corps avait été autopsié lundi, trois jours après son décès inexpliqué.
"Les médecins qui ont pratiqué l'autopsie ont conclu que Jett Travolta est
mort d'une attaque", selon un autre site people, TMZ.com, qui cite un
responsable des pompes funèbres de l'île. Ce dernier a par ailleurs affirmé
au site que le "corps était en bon état et ne montrait aucun signe de
traumatisme crânien". TMZ.com poursuit en expliquant que ce témoignage
va à l'encontre des affirmations de la police et de la famille, "qui ont
dit que le garçon s'était heurté la tête" dans la salle de bains. Le
garçon a été retrouvé mort vendredi dans sa salle de bains, dans la
résidence de vacances où il se trouvait sur l'île de Grand Bahama. Jett
Travolta souffrait depuis l'enfance de crises épileptiques et un avocat de
son père a déclaré vendredi que le jeune garçon aurait pu succomber à l'une
de ces crises. Plusieurs médias américains ont affirmé que l'adolescent
était autiste mais John Travolta ne l'a jamais reconnu, affirmant que son
fils souffrait du syndrome de Kawasaki, une maladie vasculaire qui peut
entraîner des compli- cations cardiaques. Mais des médecins interrogés par
l'AFP ont précisé que cette maladie se prolonge rarement au-delà de la
petite enfance. Aucune information n'était disponible sur le traitement
médical suivi par Jett Travolta. John Travolta et sa femme sont adeptes
de la scientologie, croyance qui refuse certains médicaments agissant sur le
cerveau, comme le Prozac, qu'elle assimile à des drogues, selon son site
internet. Interrogée par l'AFP, une porte-parole de la scientologie, Karin Pouw, a assuré que son Eglise n'interdisait aucun traitement médical à ses adeptes. Remarque d'anti-scientologie au sujet des traitements médicaux en scientologie.
L'adolescent était le seul fils de la star âgée de 54 ans, héros de "La fièvre du samedi soir", "Pulp fiction" ou "Grease", et de l'actrice Kelly Preston, âgée de 46 ans. Le couple a également une petite fille de 8 ans prénommée Ella Bleu. Jett Travolta doit être enterré à Ocala (Floride, sud-est), où sa famille est domiciliée. Dernière minute: Selon http://www.canoe.com/ une autopsie menée le 5 janvier a démontré que Jett Travolta avait été victime d'un accident vasculaire cérébral. Témoignage de Jean-Luc Barbier Un scientologue ne peut mettre en doute la thérapie scientologue Lorsqu'un adepte souffrait d'un maux de tête ou d'une quelconque maladie la scientologie promettait aussitôt une guérison totale avec ses méthodes en dénigrant les autres méthodes. Avoir l'esprit ouvert était condamné par les écrits de Ron Hubbard . Aux yeux des scientologues seule la scientologie peut réellement nous venir en aide car le mental est la source de toute nos maladies ! La scientologie va jusqu'à interdire ses cours et sa thérapie aux
personnes suivies par un psychiatre, ce qui est une manière subtile
d'empêcher certains membres de se faire soigner correctement par peur d'être exclus. L'adepte sait parfaitement que mettre en doute la thérapie de scientologie peut lui coûter cher. car la secte peut dans ce cas lui imposer l'achat de cours, ne serait-ce que le cours d'éthique de scientologie pour le remettre dans le droit chemin ... Si la thérapie de scientologie ne fonctionne pas l'adepte ira jusqu'à dire que c'est de sa faute. Ce n'est jamais la faute des théories scientologues qui sont fausses, simplistes et non scientifiques. D'autre part s'il arrive qu'un scientologue soit "soulagé" d'une maladie du genre mal de tête, ou "guéri" d'une maladie (effet placebo), les scientologues attriburont toujours ce résultat à la seule scientologie. Pour apprendre à "soigner"des crises d'épilepsie j'ai dû étudié un cours où jamais il n'a été question de s'adresser à un médecin. Un simple "touch assist" était censé suffisant pour en venir à bout. Le docteur et scientologue genevois F. dont le fils souffrait d'épilepsie n'a aucunement contredit ces instructions. Bien au contraire, il m'a vanté que cela lui permettait de venir en aide à son enfant et que c'était la meilleure méthode qu'il a jamais trouvée. Selon les écrits de Ron Hubbard (le loup-gourou de la scientologie) la thérapie de scientologie ne peut avoir d'effets négatifs, sauf si elle est mal appliquée.
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Lire aussi les effets secondaires de ce médicaments)
La police évoque la négligence Le département de police des Bahamas a indiqué aux journalistes de TMZ que, d’après les premiers éléments de l'enquête, Jett Travolta aurait été laissé sans surveillance pendant plus de 10 heures et que la mort de l'adolescent aurait eu lieu pendant cette période de temps. D’après ce que la police a établi, Jeff Kathrein et Eli sont les deux nannies embauchés par les Travolta pour veiller sur leur fils. Le premier décembre, les employés, Jett, ses parents et sa soeur ont fait une promenade en bateau et sont rentrés à leur maison du Old Bahama Bay Hotel vers 18h. À ce moment-là, Jett Travolta a expliqué qu’il était fatigué et est allé se coucher. Après que le fils des Travolta fut rentré, Jeff - l’un des deux employés chargés de sa surveillance - a regardé la télévision, dans une pièce adjacente à la chambre de Jett. L’autre employé, Eli, n'a repris son poste que vers 23h30. À ce moment, Jeff s’est rendu à la salle de bains et a aperçu Jett Travolta, toujours vivant et bien portant. La nuit s’est poursuivie sans incidents et ce n’est que le lendemain matin, vers 10h, que le corps inanimé du jeune homme a été découvert par Jeff. Aucun des deux employés chargés de sa surveillance n’a entendu le moindre bruit et ce, malgré un équipement de surveillance qui comprenait, notamment, une clochette sur la porte de la salle de bains. De plus, d’après les déclarations de Michael McDermott - l’ami et avocat de John Travolta - à TMZ, Jett était encore vivant quand John a tenté de le réanimer. L’état de santé de Jett Travolta Depuis des années, des spéculations circulent à l’effet que le jeune garçon n’était pas atteint du syndrome de Kawasaki, mais plutôt d’autisme. Or, si cette information est bel et bien fondée, John et Kelly, qui sont membres reconnus de l’église de Scientologie, se trouvaient confrontés à un sérieux dilemme moral. En effet, l’église ne reconnaît pas les maladies mentales et l’autisme entre dans cette catégorie. Avec les premiers résultats de l’enquête arrivent aussi des détails supplémentaires sur l’état de santé du fils de John Travolta et Kelly Preston. Si la controverse fait toujours rage au sujet du fait que l’adolescent était autiste et ne souffrait pas, comme le disaient ses parents, du syndrome de Kawasaki, on en sait un peu plus sur les symptômes qui affligeaient Jett. Michael McDermott a notamment avoué que l’aîné des Travolta pouvait dormir de 12 à 16 heures par jour, qu’il avait des difficultés à communiquer et qu’il avait parfois du mal à se déplacer. De plus, on a ainsi appris que Jett avait longtemps pris du Depakote, un anticonvulsif puissant destiné à atténuer les violentes crises dont il souffrait. Ces crises débilitantes avaient lieu tous les quatre jours et le médicament avait réussi pendant un temps à calmer la fréquence des convulsions. Malheureusement, le Depakote a cessé de faire effet au bout de quelques années et John Travolta et Kelly Preston, en accord avec le médecin traitant de Jett, avaient pris la décision d'arrêter le médicament. Le syndrome de Kawasaki touche 15 personnes sur 100 000. Entre autres symptômes, ce mal s’identifie par de douloureuses éruptions cutanées, une forte fièvre et une enflure de la glande lymphatique. Comme le soulignait Kelly Preston avant le décès de son fils: «nous avons traversé une période incertaine, puis sa condition a commencé à s’améliorer. Cependant, il a beaucoup d’allergies, est sensible à beaucoup de choses et il a eu des crises d’asthme». En fait, selon le Dr. Martha Lepow, experte pédiatrique en maladies infectieuses, la maladie peut entraîner des complications qui se poursuivront toute la vie durant. «Nous traitons la maladie, mais pour un faible pourcentage des enfants, il y a des complications cardiaques à long terme. Nous ne pouvons pas utiliser le terme ‘guérir’, mais la majorité des patients s’en remettent» affirme-t-elle. Jeff Kathrein, gardien incompétent de Jett Travolta ? Dès que la nouvelle du décès de Jett Travolta a été annoncée, il a aussi été fait mention du fait qu’à cause de sa condition médicale, Jett était supervisé en tout temps. La question qui se pose aujourd’hui: est-ce que la personne qui lui servait de nanny, Jeff Kathrein, avait les compétences pour superviser le fils de John Travolta et de Kelly Preston? Dans un article publié par le New York Daily News, il est fait état de disparités entre déclarations du clan Travolta et les déclarations des enquêteurs chargés de faire la lumière sur les causes du décès de l’adolescent. Selon le clan Travolta, Jett a été pris de convulsions et a fait une chute vendredi matin, peu de temps avant que Jeff Kathrein ne le découvre inanimé. Toutefois, les enquêteurs allèguent que Jett a plutôt fait sa chute le soir précédent. Il faudra donc attendre les résultats complets de l’autopsie - qui ne seront peut-être pas rendus publics - pour déterminer avec plus de précision le moment où la crise fatidique s’est produite. Jeff et son épouse, Ana, sont photographes professionnels, spécialisés dans les photographies de mariages. Le couple est établi dans la région de Tampa Bay, en Floride. On sait que John Travolta possède aussi une résidence en Floride. Le dernier billet sur le blog de Jeff remonte au 18 octobre 2008, alors qu’il nous apprend que son épouse Ana est enceinte de leur premier enfant. Si le site Web nous présente effectivement un portfolio photographique intéressant, rien ne laisse entrevoir une quelconque formation spécialisée en soin d’enfants ou en soins infirmiers. Il y a peut-être une autre raison qui explique la relation entre le couple John Travolta-Kelly Preston et Jeff et Ana Kathrein. Selon le Los Angeles Times, qui cite le site Web Gawker.com, Jeff et Ana seraient membres de l’Église de scientologie, tout comme John et Kelly. La controverse enfle Joey Travolta, le frère de John Travolta, vient de jeter de l’huile sur le feu en mêlant l’Église de scientologie au décès de l’adolescent. Quelques jours après le décès de Jett Travolta, fils aîné de Kelly Preston et de l’acteur, Joey déclare que son neveu était bel et bien autiste et qu’il n’était pas atteint du syndrome de Kawasaki, une maladie infantile qui touche les vaisseaux sanguins. C’est dans les pages du Mirror britannique que Joey Travolta a choisi de faire ces déclarations chocs. Comme nous l’avions rapporté le 3 janvier dernier, au moment de l’annonce du décès de Jett Travolta, plusieurs proches de John Travolta et Kelly Preston ne cachaient pas leur certitude quant à la maladie dont le jeune adolescent était atteint. Alors que les deux acteurs parlaient de syndrome de Kawasaki, une maladie infantile extrêmement rare des vaisseaux sanguins, de nombreuses sources affirmaient que Jett souffrait plutôt d’autisme, une maladie dont l'existence n’est pas reconnue par l’Église de scientologie, dont John Travolta et Kelly Preston sont des membres actifs. Jett Travolta était autiste Joey Travolta, le frère de John, est un réalisateur qui a notamment tourné un documentaire intitulé Normal People Scare Me et qui s’intéresse aux enfants autistes. Et il a toujours été persuadé que son neveu souffrait de cette maladie. «Joey pouvait voir Jett dans chacun des 65 jeunes qu’il a interviewé [lors du tournage du documentaire]. C’était tellement évident que Jett était atteint d’autisme et pour s’en convaincre, il suffisait de passer cinq minutes avec lui. Malheureusement, l’horreur de la situation était que, à cause de leurs croyances religieuses, ses parents n’acceptaient tout simplement pas qu’il puisse être autiste» a déclaré un ami de l’oncle de Jett. Les médecins sont formels: le syndrome de Kawaski ne peut pas causer de convulsions - les premiers éléments de l'’enquête prouvent, ainsi que nous l’avons rapporté hier, que Jett en avait régulièrement -. Or, les personnes autistes souffrent toute leur vie de terribles crises, s’apparentant à des crises d'épilepsie, mal dont souffrait Jett Travolta. Comme le confie un ami de Joey Travolta: «Les parents des enfants qui fréquentaient la même école que Jett se demandaient tous pourquoi [John Travolta et sa femme Kelly Preston] niaient l’évidence.» Le Los Angeles Times souligne que l’Église de scientologie considère les maladies mentales comme psychosomatiques. «Joey aime profondément son frère, mais il était en désaccord constant sur les traitements à prodiguer à Jett» ajoute cet intime. «[Kelly Preston] devait savoir [que Jett] était autiste. Je sais qu’elle lui a fait suivre un traitement de détoxication qui peut aider les enfants souffrant d’autisme, mais ils auraient pu faire tellement d’autres choses pour le soigner.» Des questions sans réponse. Depuis des années, des spéculations circulent à l’effet que le jeune garçon n’était pas atteint du syndrome de Kawasaki, mais plutôt d’autisme. Or, si cette information est bel et bien fondée, John et Kelly, qui sont membres reconnus de l’église de Scientologie, se trouvaient confrontés à un sérieux dilemme moral. En effet, l’église ne reconnaît pas les maladies mentales et l’autisme entre dans cette catégorie. L’an dernier, le New York Post publiait un article dans lequel on mentionnait que «les parents d’enfants souffrant d'autisme disent que Travolta devrait faire comme Sylvester Stallone, Doug Flutie, Jenny McCarthy et Toni Braxton, qui sont tous parents d’enfants autistiques, et aider à augmenter la sensibilisation et les fonds pour la recherche visant à guérir la maladie.» Toujours selon le Post, un éditeur de magazine qui a interviewé Travolta à quelques reprises disait que le fils de la vedette souffrait d’incapacités et que l’acteur agissait comme si de rien n’était. «Travolta accorde des entrevues où il parle de comment Jett adore lire ou faire du sport, mais il est clair que le garçon ne peut faire ni l’un ni l'autre» rajoutait cet éditeur. Les questions sans réponses Quelle était la nature réelle de la maladie de Jett Travolta? Maladie de Kawasaki ou autisme ? La relation entre John Travolta et Jeff Kathrein est-elle purement amicale et professionnelle ? Est-ce que les règles de l’Église de scientologie suivies par John Travolta et par Kelly Preston ont eu une incidence sur le diagnostic porté sur la condition de Jett et sur les soins qui lui ont été apportés? Est-ce que la personne agissant à titre de nanny pour Jett, Jeff Kathrein, avait les compétences nécessaires, compte-tenu de la condition de Jett ? Il sera intéressant de voir si des réponses seront apportées à ces questions, que ce soit par la famille ou par les autorités. Il est dommage que, notamment à cause de leur foi et de leur célébrité, le doute subsiste toujours quant au véritable mal qui affligeait Jett. Dernière minute: Selon http://www.canoe.com une autopsie menée le 5 janvier dernier a démontré que Jett Travolta avait été victime d’un accident vasculaire cérébral. |
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Le gardien du fils de John Travolta sera interrogé par la police
Jeff Kathrein Jett travolta Ella Bleu et Kelly Preston Jeff Kathrein sera interrogé puisqu’on a récemment appris qu’il ne possède pas les qualifications nécessaires au poste de nounou et qu’il est en fait photographe de mariages. De plus, bien qu’il fût le gardien principal du jeune garçon de 16 ans, il n’a jamais été considéré comme tel avant la mort tragique de Jett. Un informateur a expliqué au site Web MailOnline: «Jeff connaît John depuis des années. Je crois qu’ils se sont rencontrés grâce à leur intérêt commun pour la scientologie. Jeff a toujours voyagé avec John et depuis que Jeff a rencontré sa femme Ana, elle voyage elle aussi avec John et Kelly. Mais je n’ai jamais entendu dire que Jeff était responsable de Jett, avant la mort de ce dernier.» Bien que la police ait confirmé la cause du décès de Jett – mort des suites d’une crise tandis qu’il était en vacances avec sa famille aux Bahamas le 2 janvier – et qu’elle n’est pas remise en doute, ils veulent continuer d’enquêter. Le dossier demeure donc ouvert Jeff est la dernière personne à avoir vu le jeune homme vivant et aurait aidé John qui tentait de ranimer le garçon lorsqu’il a été découvert dans la salle de bain. Des vérifications ont été effectuées et ont permis de confirmer que Jeff n’a pas les qualifications profession- nelles nécessaires au poste de gardien. Jett était atteint de la maladie de Kawasaki, une maladie rare qui affecte le système circulatoire de jeunes enfants et qui n’est supposément pas mortelle. Il avait besoin de soins constants. John et Kelly avaient donc embauché deux gardiens afin qu’on l’ait à l’œil 24 heures sur 24. Jeff et un homme nommé Eli partageaient une suite adjacente à la chambre de Jett tandis que la famille était en vacances. Mais selon les policiers, Jett aurait été laissé seul pendant près de 10 heures puisque les gardiens regardaient la télévision. |
It is hard to avoid hearing about the controversy over the death of young Jett Travolta, the 16-year-old son of Hollywood megastars John Travolta and Kelly Preston. Young Jett reportedly died as a result of a seizure disorder, with Jett having been taken off antiseizure medication shortly before his death. Almost immediately, there have been allegations that the couple's adherence to Church of Scientology teachings contributed to the death of their child. Jett and John Travolta. (AP Photo/Rogers & Cowan) So far, the media has seemed unsure how to cover this story, rightfully self-conscious, not wanting to exploit the tragic death of a child or attack his grieving parents unfairly. Sadly, "expert" guests brought forth by the media have often been editors of Hollywood tabloid shows and magazines. Despite extensive coverage, at this point the media does not seem to have asked essential questions and examined and included proper medical perspective on an essentially medical tragedy. From the perspective of my medical training, and from the information that has been released thus far -- Jett Travolta's death appears to have been not only very tragic but also very preventable. Jett had been on a medication called Depakote. In recent interviews, the Church states that they are not against the use of Depakote for seizures. However, the Church does take a position against the use of Depakote for psychiatric mood disorders, which today is an even more common use of Depakote. The problem is, with Scientology preaching so vehemently, and using hostile rhetoric against the use of medications for psychiatric disorders, it is easy to see how an anti-medication culture might develop within Scientology. Church members, having heard "pills are not the answer" so often, might make a tragic mistake and stop a medication that they have heard so many times is harmful. The Church has taken a position against the use of any and all medications for psychiatric purposes. With this in mind, it is easy to see how Church members might get exaggerated ideas of the harmfulness of any medication that is also used in psychiatry, such as Depakote. Statements from family indicate that the primary reason the medication was stopped was concerns that Depakote was harming Jet. And since psychiatry is a part of medicine, fear and mistrust of the medical community in general could develop. Another factor in Scientology is the extensive use of vitamin therapy and other alternatives treatments which might cause delay in seeking critically needed medical care. In their public statement, the family's lawyers say his parents consulted with doctors before stopping his medication. However, they have yet to say that any physician actually agreed with this decision. Without actually saying it, family lawyers imply that Jett's physicians supported the decision to take him off antiseizure medication but have yet to name any of these physicians. For someone in Jett's condition, and with Jett not being in a hospital, I cannot imagine any physician recommending that he be taken off all antiseizure medication, as he was. Shortly before his death, Jett was reportedly having grand mal seizures at a rate of one or more per week, which would place his health and safety at great risk. If this is so, the safest and most appropriate place for Jett would have been in a hospital, where Jett could be closely monitored while necessary changes were made to his antiseizure medication regime and until he was stabilized and having seizures much less frequently. Intravenous medication is often required in situations like this, which is another reason why a hospital would be the right setting for Jett. Simply stated, this is how I and all other physicians I know would attempt to treat Jett. Another controversial aspect of Jett's death is whether or not Jett had autism -- and if he did, whether this was improperly treated as a result of the couple's adherence to Scientology. Autism is a developmental disorder characterized by severe impairment in a child's ability to communicate and interact socially. According to some media reports, Jett was mostly nonverbal -- although the Travolta family has not acknowledged this publically. If this is true, then it would be highly likely that Jett had autism. However, autism is a psychiatric diagnosis, and the Church of Scientology is on record stating that psychiatric disorders are "psychological" rather than "medical" and do not exist or need medical treatment. As of yet, the Church has refused to answer questions over whether autism is a genuine medical condition needing genuine medical treatment. Underlying this story is the Church's position on psychiatry, and, indeed, every year Scientologists gather to protest the annual meeting of the American Psychiatric Association. Headlines were made several years ago when Scientologist and actor Tom Cruise attacked psychiatry on NBC's Today Show and criticized actress Brooke Shields for taking antidepressant medication. Videos have been leaked by former members to the internet which show the Church's leader David Miscavige speaking of plans to eradicate psychiatry entirely. Scientology's animosity towards psychiatry is reported to come directly from the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard, the Church's founder and former science fiction writer of some note. Hubbard's hostility towards psychiatry could be rooted in lawsuits during the 1950s, when the medical and psychiatric establishment alleged that techniques used in Hubbard's Dianetics amounted to practicing medicine without a license. Recently Scientology opened a "museum" in Los Angeles with the not-so-subtle name "Psychiatry: An Industry of Death," in which exhibits claim that psychiatrists were responsible for the Holocaust. Considering the fact that that most psychiatrists in Germany at that time were Jewish and had to flee Germany or be murdered by the Nazis, this would seem to be a hard case to make, especially considering Hitler's own hatred of psychiatry. Scientology has a reputation for aggressively and personally attacking its critics, which is probably why the major anti-Scientology internet group goes by the name of 'Anonymous.' I certainly have no affiliation with them, but after much thought, I have also decided to submit this article anonymously. As a resident physician training in psychiatry, I am obviously entering this fray. I don't relish the thought of being someone else's enemy or target, but I suppose I am destined to be hated by Scientologists, perhaps referred to as a 'Psych', 'SP', or 'suppressive person.' But psychiatry is indeed medicine -- whether or not Scientologists care to admit it or understand it. I know I love trying to make life better for mental health patients, and there's nothing else I'd rather be doing. However, in this case what is truly important is the terrible loss of an innocent child and the suffering of his grieving family. By all credible accounts, the Travolta family loved Jett tremendously and would never have done anything to knowingly harm him. But in examining Jett's story from a medical perspective, it certainly appears that for some reason Jett did not receive the medical care he needed and the results were indeed tragic. Sadly, Jett Travolta may have been the innocent victim of a decades old conflict between the ideas of Scientology and medicine. In trying to make sense out of senseless tragedy, perhaps along with healing will come the wisdom to prevent another child from sharing a similar fate. A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION
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JETT Travolta's decision to stop taking anti-seizure medication was a FATAL mistake, some medics claim.The Travolta's lawyer Michael McDermott said Jett had been prescribed the anti-seizure drug Depakote, but had stopped taking it after it became less effective and following fears of liver damage. But specialists say he should never have stopped taking it, and should have tried a different anti-seizure drug. Jett, who suffered fits, was found slumped in a bathroom last Friday at the family’s Bahamas holiday home.
Dr Yousef Mohammad, who has not treated Jett, said: "It is highly dangerous to take a patient off seizure medication. "The only time we do that is if the patient has been seizure-free for two to three years." The neurologist and assistant professor at Ohio State Medical Center in Columbus added: "Depakote can rarely cause liver damage. But there are many alternatives. "I would switch to Keppra, which is excreted by the kidneys, not the liver and is very safe. "There are many new medications available...but you do not stop medication." The Travolta family, who cremated Jett in the Bahamas, will hold a funeral for the 16-year-old near their home in Ocala, Florida, on Thursday.Meanwhile prominent Scientologist Lisa Marie Presley has hit out at critics who blame the religion as the reason Jett was denied drugs. Ms Presley said: "My heart is crying and bleeding for them. "I personally would not have it in me to bury my own child. "I am writing this because I have noticed that for the most part, people and the media have been very sympathetic and respectful, but there are those certain ones that want to use this horrible tragedy as an opportunity to once again, blame and or attack Scientology. "Folks, as popular as it has been to discriminate and ridicule Scientology and Scientologist's in the recent past, now is NOT the time. "Among most of the crazy made up garbage that goes around about it, it is not true that Scientologist's "Don't believe in" medical care, medicine or medical doctors and that may have something to do with this terrible tragedy. "Just like anyone else, if one is sick, they go to the doctor, if a medication will make it better then they take it. "If they don't then they are an idiot and you can't blame their religion. "Whatever medical and or physical condition Jett had, I can tell you first hand that his parents were on a tireless, never ending quest to get and provide him with the absolute best care anyone could ever ask for and need, medically, physically, emotionally, medicinally and spiritually." Yesterday it was revealed that sobbing John Travolta cradled the lifeless body of his son and told him “I’m sorry Jett”.The film star whispered the heartbreaking last words to Jett after his desperate battle to save the teen failed. Paramedic Tarino Lightbourn told how Travolta, 54, broke down and clung to his only son’s body. Recalling the moment doctors told the actor that Jett was dead, Tarino said: “John went behind the hospital curtain, tears in his eyes. “I could see the sorrow. I could see the love in his eyes for his son. “When he was hugging his son he said, ‘I’m sorry Jett’. “I think he meant, ‘I’m sorry Jett, I did all I could do’.” Travolta begged his son to live as an ambulance rushed them to hospital. Tarino, who was driving, said the Pulp Fiction star performed CPR on Jett as wife Kelly Preston, 46, looked on. He said Travolta was crying and praying, adding: “I remember him looking up at the ceiling and saying, ‘God, please help me’.” Jett was pronounced dead at Rand Memorial Hospital in Freeport, Grand Bahama.He suffered from Kawasaki disease, which can cause heart problems. A post mortem revealed death was due to seizure disorder Grieving Travolta insisted on flying Jett’s remains back to the family home landing his Gulfstream 2 in the early hours of yesterday.The plane flew to Tampa where a van marked with the Church of Scientology logo was seen picking up a group. The actor’s spokesman said the family planned a wake last night and a private funeral service near their home today. Travolta’s British biographer and close pal Douglas Thompson said: “I couldn’t even begin to imagine the hurt and the pain John must be feeling. “The desire to protect Jett informed everything he did. The loss will be devastating.” He added that Travolta planned to set up a charity in memory of Jett — and campaign against the use of domestic chemicals which he says triggered his son’s Kawasaki disease. |
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By John Barry and Jonathan Abel, St. Petersburg Times Staff Writers http://www.tampabay.com/features/humaninterest/article961991.ece
The death of Jett Travolta last Friday was so sudden, so unexplained, so entangled in Hollywood celebrity, it couldn't help but unleash amateur detectives the world over. Tall and strapping, 16-year-old Jett looked a lot like his famous father, John. He was found unconscious the morning after New Year's celebrations on the bathroom floor inside the Travoltas' vacation villa on Grand Bahama Island. The family has said almost nothing about the circumstances of the death. An autopsy in the Bahamas was kept secret, except for the finding that the death was not a homicide. A Bahamian undertaker claimed to have glimpsed the cause off the death certificate: brain seizure. Meanwhile, a family spokesman confirmed that Jett suffered seizures for years and had been on — and then taken off — the epilepsy drug Depakote. In this vacuum of facts, imaginations run wild. Did Jett have autism, and might that disorder have contributed to his demise? Did something called Kawasaki disease play a role in his death? Did the Church of Scientology dissuade his parents — among the world's most famous Scientologists — from getting the right medical care? The Travolta family hasn't addressed any of these questions publicly, and maybe never will. Today they're hosting Jett's funeral at their home in Ocala. But many parents and neurologists see aspects of the tragedy that seem familiar, and surprisingly common. This is their best guess: Jett died the same way 50,000 ordinary Americans — Christians, Scientologists, Buddhists — die every year: of seizures. A video from last November may reveal more about Jett Travolta than all the speculation. Just two minutes long, the encounter between paparazzi and the Travolta family takes place outside a Paris restaurant. The paparazzi surround John, wife Kelly Preston, son Jett and daughter Ella Bleu, 8, as they're getting into an SUV. The mood is friendly, but John and an attendant — possibly one of the omnipresent nannies — flank Jett. John takes the boy's hand. Jett has a distant look. He makes no eye contact. John and the attendant guide him into the SUV and gently buckle him in. The boy says nothing, but raises his hands to his head. Millions of people have seen the video on TV and the Internet, but to Dana Ando of St. Petersburg the scene seems familiar. She watched it several times and recognizes the distant look, the hand gestures, the parents' protectiveness. In the paparazzi video she saw Cameron, her 10-year-old autistic son. "A parent like me can spot an autistic kid a mile away." Like a third of autistic children, Cameron has seizures. And like Jett, Cameron had taken the drug Depakote to control them. For years there has been speculation that Jett suffered from autism, but the Travolta family never spoke publicly about the unsolicited armchair diagnosis. The only illness the parents have talked about was Kawasaki disease, an affliction Jett developed at age 2. Untreated, the disease can cause heart damage, but it appears Jett recovered quickly and completely. When news came out that Jett died of a sudden seizure, however, rumors buzzed about links connecting seizures, autism and the Church of Scientology. People wondered whether the Travoltas, in not acknowledging autism, might have put their son at risk. Some critics even claimed that the Travoltas never spoke about autism because the diagnosis is not accepted by Scientology. Autism United, a national group representing 15,000 parents, urged the Travoltas to become advocates in a statement Monday. The release repeated the claim that Scientologists view autism as nothing more than a "psychosomatic" disease. But Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis said these conclusions were a canard. First of all, he said, the church has no policy on whether autism is real or fabricated. It is not addressed in church practice. Beyond that, Davis, a Los Angeles-based spokesman, said the church would never interfere with a doctor's prescription for a medical condition such as seizures. The church would have told the Travoltas to do whatever their doctors prescribed, Davis said. He has known John for 30 years and Kelly for 18, and was present for Jett's birth. The boy, he said, has always received the best medical care. The confusion may stem from the church's well-known opposition to psychiatry, which it considers a practice not based in science. Members may not take "mind-altering" psychiatric drugs, Davis said. But how about a drug like Depakote, which is prescribed for seizures but also sometimes used for psychiatric conditions such as bipolar disorder ? "Sure, if they had seizures, why not? If that was what was advised by a doctor, why not?" There could be a problem, however, for a Scientologist engaged in the practice of "auditing." In a 1972 lecture, Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard said that spiritual counselors ran into conflicts when auditing church members taking drugs for epilepsy. Church members are required to "go off the drug" during auditing. For epileptics, abruptly "going off the drug" can be dangerous, said Dr. Erasmo Passaro, director of the Comprehensive Epilepsy Program at Bayfront Medical Center. Stopping medication is likely to trigger serious seizures and could even be fatal. There is no information about whether Jett was ever audited, or why his use of Depakote was discontinued. It's possible another drug was substituted. The family has said nothing. Even Bruce Hines, a harsh critic of Scientology, who worked for the church in both Clearwater and California, doubts the church would have blocked Jett's medical treatment. "I'm very much opposed to Scientology now," he said, "but I see no reason to believe the church inappropriately interfered." • • • But the boy did die. When he did, Jeanne Donalty felt a special sorrow. Her son, Christopher, 21, died of a seizure seven years ago while attending Stetson University in DeLand. He was a big, strong kid. He was taking epilepsy medication. He had once taken Depakote. She thought he had been free of seizures for two years. Donalty, who lives in Utica, N.Y., has since learned that about 50,000 Americans die of seizures every year. She now is a board member of Citizens United for Research in Epilepsy, based in Chicago. Epilepsy is an inexact term. It applies to anyone who has had at least two unprovoked seizures. That includes 3-million Americans. It included Jett Travolta. Sometimes seizures kill, for no apparent reason. It's called Sudden Unexplained Death in Epilepsy. Theories include an obliteration of normal heart rhythms, or a form of post-seizure apnea that stops an otherwise healthy person from breathing. The Travoltas haven't said what Jett's autopsy found. But Donalty has learned enough to grieve for them. "I see another boy dead of a seizure," she said. "My heart goes out to them." John Barry can be reached at jbarry@sptimes.com or (727) 892-2258. Jonathan Abel can be reached at jabel@sptimes.com or (727) 445-4157. |
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Video proof of Jett Travolta's autism by Why We Protest | Activism Forum Source: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/298-jett-travolta/video-proof-jett-travoltas-autism-31978
From the Staff of WWP Hello to everyone visiting us from Google and other news sites. The posts below and for the first five or six pages were written before Jett Travolta's tragic death. Read on for some history on Jett and his autism, or skip ahead to the Jett Travolta forum which is where the current news is being discussed. Thanks. Staff of WWP
Video proof of Jett Travolta's autism
If you watch him you will definitely see he is special needs. A seventeen year old does not usually need to be lead by his father and guided by the shoulder by a handler. You will also note to 100 mile look and slack facial features. If you go 1:20 left you will see two kinds of stimming, the rocking and him watching his hand while moving it. Definite signs of autism. Now the question of his special needs is out, and you can see how nervous John and Kelly were about this, the question is what treatments, good or bad has he had from this Scientological parents ? I posted this on IMDb but it was deleted twice, make that three times. Edit; in light of the untimely death of Jett, and the number of views this thread is getting here are some links of interest and importance on the subject. When I originally posted this I had no idea that Jett was in so much danger. If Anon had taken on the cause of Jett more strongly would
he have survived ? Probably not. But I hope his tragic death will help to end the deaths
of other children in this cult that are in the same danger.After watching this video you might want to
consider looking at:
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John Travolta's Brother Says, "Jett Was Autistic" by humbledog (libertarian) Joey Travolta, brother of John Travolta and Uncle to Jett Travolta created an award winning documentary on Autism and often pleaded with brother John to seek treatment for Jett.
John Travolta and Kelly Preston have long denied evidence that their son Jett had autism. Even after his death from a violent convulsion, the parents continued to claim their son suffered from seizures brought on by "mucocutaneous lymph node syndrome" (Kawasaki Syndrome). But health experts state there is no link between KS and seizures. although it commonly occurs for sufferers of Autism if left untreated. Kawasaki
Syndrome John
Travolta's older brother Joey (Joseph) Travolta believed that
Jett suffered from autism, which can cause violent seizures
and result in death. Joey had formed the group Actors for Autism The London Mirror reported many Travolta Brothers arguments were caused by discussing Jett Travolta's illness. A close friend to Joey Travolta, informed the Mirror that Joey and John often argued about what was wrong with Jett ... "Joey could see Jett in every one of those 65 kids he spoke to (for the film.) It was so obvious Jett was autistic just from spending five minutes with him, but the cruel fact of their religion meant his parents simply did not accept it." Kelly Preston believed that Kawasaki Syndrome and her son's seizures were caused by a common household carpet-cleaner. She had recently placed Jett into a dangerous Scientology detox program and then credited it with healing her son. John Travolta's neighbor Tim Kenny, the father of a 4-year-old autistic girl stated that Travolta was in denial, "Scientology is keeping him from acknowledging his son's autism. They see it as a weakness - an embarrassment". It was painfully obvious that Jett Travolta was autistic. He lacked any real communicative abilities or constructive thinking, constantly requiring a caretaker and being lead by the hand like a toddler. Jett was often confused by his surroundings and required a live-in caretaker/nanny (Jeff Kathrein). In response to criticisms that John Travolta refused to give his son anti-seizure medication; Scientology lawyer Michael McDermott cited that Depakote (a medication for bi-polar disorder that helps mild epilepsy) was administered until the drug lost its effectiveness. This writer wonders, "Why wasn't a better or alternative medication provided ?" - "Is being faithful to your religion worth losing your child ?" |
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Wild Hogs Star Gives own Autistic Son the Silent Treatment Hollywood's latest global warming expert John Travolta recently sent a chill through the Florida neighborhood where he parks his beloved private jets.
Tim and Patricia Kenny, proud parents of a 4 year-old autistic girl, believe that it might be time for Child Protective Services to look into John Travolta and wife Kelly's negligence in acknowledging their son Jett's reported autism. "I don't think it's a stretch to call their treatment of Jett child abuse," Ocala, Florida restaurant manager Tim Kenny tells Hollywood, Interrupted. Kenny claims he met Travolta at his restaurant in February, and, after "comping" the movie star and his daughter a meal per restaurant policy for celebrities, he asked him, "as one autistic child's father to another," if he "was doing anything special in terms of therapy" for Jett. Aghast, Travolta responded, "Well, we involve him in the arts." Then, he offered to send Kenny a book, and high-tailed it out of the restaurant. "If I ever received a Scientology book from him [Travolta], I'd find him, and throw it back at him," says Kenny. "Scientology is keeping him from acknowledging his son's autism. They see it as a weakness. That's what the space aliens are telling him I guess."
Militant Mama Kelly at a Scientology hate march Joking aside, the Kennys are "disgusted by" Travolta. They claim that Travolta has turned down invitations to participate in autism fundraisers, and most recently refused to participate in a local celebrity golf tournament if a connection to autism advocacy was promoted. The organizers of the charity tournament scheduled at the Golden Hills Country Club in November are alleged to have changed the billing from an autism event to the more generic "fundraiser for disabled children" to accommodate the star. Calls to event organizer, the Family Resources Coalition, were not returned by post time. The Kennys also claim that Kelly and John "let Jett sit in front of video games all day eating junk food, while they eat the best organic food money can buy. They exclude Jett from all social events because they are embarrassed." "Once," reports Kenny, "when Kelly took him to the movies, Jett started to have a meltdown and Kelly pointed at the nanny and ordered, 'Take care of it.'" "Jett does not speak at all," confirms Kenny. "He has not even been taught how to communicate. We struggle every week to pay for our daughter's therapy. How dare he [Travolta] ruin his own son's chances of recovering! We want to get the word out on this."
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JOHN TRAVOLTA - OPEN YOUR HEART ! http://www.hollywoodinterrupted.com/ - April 10, 2006 On Friday, April 7th, Hollywood, Interrupted was treated to the Los Angeles premiere of "Normal People Scare Me" - a feature-length documentary about autism, co-directed by the high functioning autistic teenager Taylor Cross and his mother, Keri Bowers. The event was sponsored by an organization called Cure Autism Now (CAN) and the new magazine, The Autism Perspective (TAP). This enlightening film was produced by b-movie actor/director/producer and former special education teacher, Joey Travolta. Joey's brother and sister-in-law, "Battlefield Earth" co-stars John Travolta and his wife Kelly Preston, were not present. Too bad... ...Had John and Kelly been at the screening, they might have a better understanding of the disorder reportedly affecting their 14 year-old son, Jett. Sadly, the Scientology couple cannot even publicly admit that their son is afflicted with a neurological disorder, lest - according to the incontrovertible doctrine of Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard - he be labeled a "degraded being" that brought his affliction onto himself. Instead, the Travoltas have long blamed their son's disability on Kawasaki Syndrome-related "environmental toxins," specifically carpet cleaning chemicals. Rumors about Jett Travolta's disability have been floating around for years, but when no less than five sources (including a media rep from the Autism Society of America (ASA), an executive from Cure Autism Now, a major Hollywood producer and parent of an autistic child, and a Hollywood actor-parent) reported that Jett Travolta was afflicted did we decide to deliver this story. Scientology will not even recognize the disability, let alone the myriad therapies for treating it. The CAN and ASA officials that spoke with Hollywood, Interrupted credited Sylvester Stallone and former pro football greats Doug Flutie and Dan Marino as celebrity parents of children with autism that have helped raise awareness of the malady. These celebs reportedly share their frustration with what they perceive as Travolta's "denial" stemming from Scientology's rabid hatred of psychiatry and judgment of those with psychological problems as lesser humans responsible for their own maladies. The Hollywood actor interviewed describes having autism as "like being trapped within yourself, and having difficulty letting normal people know who you really are." Now, imagine being trapped inside a mind-control cult that prohibits you from availing your child to the treatment available. No wonder Scientology has long been plagued by suicides, and wrongful deaths. The movie producer that spoke with Hollywood, Interrupted reports: "Kelly Preston, in her heart, wants to do the right thing for her son." "I bet it rips her heart out," says the actor. "But," says the producer, "John Travolta has so far, done nothing to help raise awareness about autism." Tragically, Scientology does nasty things to the heart. "And to the other families who are being torn apart by this disorder," sighs the actor. "Let me know if I can help you appeal to his heart." Hollywood, Interrupted believes that you may have done just that.
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TO: SCIENTOLOGY RE: PSYCHIATRY/DRUGS ... IMPORTANT INFO !!!
Sadly Jett's name needs to be added here
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Scientology: Hubbard on EPILEPSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMom3y1zyZU Download the video (.flv - 3,6 MB) L. Ron Hubbard rambling
foolishly about Epilepsy,and how it is necessary to get the patient OFF
MEDICATION so the "pre-clear" can be "audited." This is as far as he goes on the
topic. He then just drones on about his past life in Ancient Greece, when he
tried to translate Latin terms, and a bunch of other unrelated stuff. He never
picks up again on epilepsy. I dont care how they call it. Sometimes they really seize and sometimes its just slight. One of those, if an epileptic ever took you by the hand and so forth, hes liable to break every bone in your hand, if he suddenly had a seizure. But the doctors keep them on something to prevent this. Its just a tranquilizer and they keep them on that one year, year in and year out. And then you come along as an auditor and you try to audit the pc and you tell the pc that hell have to go off that drug. And then all of a sudden, why something will happen from someplace or another that the pc will tell the doctor that they have been taken off the drug by the auditor. And the doctor will call up plaintively asking you to please put her back on the drug because she needs this. And you get into a collision between medical treatment and so on. Now Ive been using a lot of medical words here or chemical words really. Just dont pay any attention to them because theyre mostly gobbledygook, and theres an awful lot of gobbledygook words. Gobbledygook just means nonsense chatter, you see. Theres an awful lot of them.
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John Travolta and Kelly Preston On: Anti-Psychiatric Medication http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0o5e7J7cQ4 Download the video (.flv - 21 MB) Scientology Propaganda video featuring Kelly preston, John Travolta, Catherine Bell, Marisol Nichols, and Sofia Milos. Ironicly Jett Travolta the son of Ms Preston and Travolta died at the age of 16 after his Depakote treatment had been halted. Raw footage - Scientology - "Global Obliteration" of Psychiatry (no overlays) Download the video (.flv - 21 MB)
Their stated goal is "The Global Obliteration of Psychiatry". Scientologists are
heavily indoctrinated with anti-psychiatry propaganda, based on the writings of
L. Ron Hubbard. They believe that all atrocities are caused by psychiatry, from
the Holocaust to modern day terrorism. Anonymous wake up call ! re:Sudbury
This is a repost. It needs to be seen. Co$ should not be allowed to carry
out their plans unchallenged. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3K70xHzHVg Download the video (.flv - 9,7 MB)
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Montel Williams, a shill for Scientology ?
The show is actually a rerun that was initially aired in early December of last year. Ms. Preston claims her "crusade" is prompted by a personal experience. Her
son Jett Travolta was diagnosed with "Kawasaki
Disease, Montel Williams, often an advocate regarding children and health issues, says
on his website that Preston wants "to help parents safeguard … children from
environmental toxins." The actress is also involved in a non-profit organization
called the "Children's Health Environmental
Coalition Jim and Nancy
Chuda Colette Chuda was the goddaughter of singer Olivia
Newton-John But is Kelly Preston using this issue to promote Scientology ? Both Kelly Preston and her husband John Travolta are devout members of the Church of Scientology. On the Montel Williams show Preston repeatedly promoted the book "Clear Body Clear Mind" by L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. And calls Hubbard's approach to purging toxins from the body "brilliant." Preston also apparently used "Montel" as a venue to feature her fellow Scientologist Michael Wisner. He was introduced as the "Toxicologist to the Stars." Wisner then also promoted Hubbard's teachings and a for-profit private clinic in Sacramento. However, the touted "Toxicologist" apparently failed to help his own son Gregory Wisner Scientologists more commonly call this process the "Purification Rundown."The National Institute of Health advised one expert that there is "no peer reviewed scientific literature to support this program." Subsequently the Swedish expert concluded within his final report, "There is no documentation to show that the Hubbard method of detoxification…conforms to scientific standards and medical experience." And that "the risks and side effects of the treatment method have also not been evaluated in a serious way." However, no possible "risks and side effects" were ever mentioned on the Montel Williams Show. Nor are any reports cited that the Hubbard approach to "clear" the body by sweating in saunas and taking large doses of niacin may actually cause liver damage. Montel's show today was devoid of any meaningful critical balance that might help viewers develop a more informed understanding about this supposed process of "purification." Instead, Williams provided a platform for Kelly Preston to essentially use his show much like an infomercial to promote her Scientology beliefs. However, Preston and Wisner scrupulously avoided even mentioning the "S" word (Scientology) explicitly. Interestingly, Jett Travolta, who did not appear on the show, is rumored to suffer from autism. This illness was another issue never mentioned during the program. Apparently, L. Ron Hubbard's "Clear Body, Clear Mind" is unable to end autism Autism is a neurological disorder. And despite all the heavy promotion, L. Ron Hubbard was not a medical expert or even a doctor. It appears that the Travoltas have not consulted the proper specialists in the field to address their son's condition and instead have relied upon Scientology. But don't expect Kelly Preston to discuss this on "Montel" either. It seems that Montel Williams, Olivia Newton-John, the Chudas and CHEC are being used as pawns by Scientology through Kelly Preston. This is not new. Scientology frequently uses its celebrity members like John Travolta, Tom Cruise and others to advance various programs and essentially shill and/or recruit for the organization. Sadly, it looks like Montel may have unknowingly become the latest shill for Scientology.
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Kelly Preston: A Mother's Crusade Montel Williams Show (Paramount TV) http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/sources/media/montel120303.htm Announcer: Actress Kelly Preston, married to superstar John Travolta. She's here to share the dramatic story of their son's mysterious illness. Ms. KELLY PRESTON (Actress & Activist): It seemed like flu symptoms. He had rashes all over his body. Announcer: Doctors didn't know why their two-year-old son was dying. Ms. PRESTON: And we just prayed that he would be OK. No, I'm fine. Announcer: The shocking cause: a common household item that can be found in your home. Find out how Kelly's fighting to protect you and your kids. A Mother's Crusade. Don't go away. That's coming up right now on MONTEL. MONTEL WILLIAMS: Welcome, welcome, welcome, and thank you so much for joining us today. You know, you have seen my guest that's on the show today in such great movies as "Space Camp," "52 Pick-Up," "Twins," "The Experts," "Waiting to Exhale," "Jerry Maguire," "From Dusk Till Dawn." Think I'm done? No. Watch this. "Addicted to Love," "Jack Frost," "For the Love of the Game" and "Battlefield Earth." And she's also a devoted mother and champion of a cause that is making sure that your home and children are safe at all times. Please welcome Ms. Kelly Preston to the show. Ms. PRESTON: Oh, thank you. WILLIAMS: How are you ? Good to see you. Ms. PRESTON: I'm so well. WILLIAMS: Here, have a seat. Thank you. Jeez. For you. Ms. PRESTON: Thank you. WILLIAMS: Jeez. Have a seat. Have a seat. Ms. PRESTON: Thank you. WILLIAMS: Thank you so much for being here. Ms. PRESTON: Well, thank you for having me. WILLIAMS: You know, normally I have big stars that come to the show every now and then and they come and they--they want to talk about this--the movie and this and that and the other. But you came here today for a very important reason. And I'm glad you're here. And that was to share what a lot of other mothers and a lot of us who are at home with children ways to keep our kids safe, correct? Ms. PRESTON: Absolutely. WILLIAMS: And this is because of something that happened to you in your own family, right? Ms. PRESTON: Yes, with our son Jett. WILLIAMS: Your son Jett. And I should say when you said 'our son,' you know, Kelly is married to John Travolta, you know. You know. Ms. PRESTON: The greatest guy in the world. WILLIAMS: You know. And we're going to talk a little bit about that a little later on because I--I have one big question for you about being married to him. But I'll make you wait to get that one. I've got a huge, big question about that one, all right? Ms. PRESTON: OK. WILLIAMS: But you had your son--What?--in 1992? Ms. PRESTON: Mm-hmm. WILLIAMS: 1992. He's 10 years old now. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah. WILLIAMS: All right. Now when--after he was home for a little while--everything was fine initially, right? Ms. PRESTON: Everything was fine. He was perfectly healthy. And when he was about two years old, he became very, very ill, but it seemed like flu symptoms. WILLIAMS: So what did you--what did you see? You saw high fever? Ms. PRESTON: High fever. When I took him to the doctor on about the third or fourth occasion, his fever in the doctor's office went up to 105. They had to bring it down. It was really scary. He had rashes all over his body. His lymph nodes were swollen. WILLIAMS: You said this was the third visit. What happened on the first visit? When you went the fir--the first time, what did the doctor say to you about your son? Ms. PRESTON: She put him on antibiotics ... WILLIAMS: Yeah. Ms. PRESTON: ...and just said that he was just sick. He had some sort of virus and that he would be fine. WILLIAMS: He'd be fine. So you take him back home. You're waiting for the symptoms to kind of subside. Ms. PRESTON: To abate, and they didn't. He just kept getting sicker and sicker. WILLIAMS: Take him back to the second doctor. Ms. PRESTON: No. It was the same doctor. I just kept going back saying, 'What's going on ?' What's--you know, and finally she looked into her physician's reference and said, 'I think he has something called Kawasaki syndrome.' WILLIAMS: Why don't you explain to our audience what it is ? Ms. PRESTON: Kawasaki syndrome is a--a disease that--they don't know how you acquire it, they're not sure if it's viral, if it's through chemicals. And it causes swelling in the organs, so your heart can swell, different important organs can swell. And it affects--it can affect anybody. But it--primarily in the ward that we had him in--I rushed him to the hospital. They did all of the tests. They said, 'Indeed, we think he has Kawasaki syndrome.' And the entire ward was filled with children with Kawasaki syndrome, something I'd never heard of. WILLIAMS: And now this is something that--that can last a lifetime, also, correct? Or some ... Ms. PRESTON: Mm-hmm, can affect them for life. WILLIAMS: Can affect them. But you found out--what brought this on in your son? Ms. PRESTON: I believed--I asked every--once he was out of the woods, because we thought at one point we were going to lose him and the doctors said that, you know, 'The next 24 hours is critical.' And once he was out of the woods and he was fine, they'd given him a gamma globulin IV and low doses of aspirin. WILLIAMS: But as a mom, you're sitting here... Ms. PRESTON: No, it was horrifying. WILLIAMS: ...first they tell you something--your child's got Kawasaki syndrome. I'm serious, a--as a father, taking my babies to the--to the--to the doctors, they've said things before. I'm telling you, I've sat there and just cried like a baby. Ms. PRESTON: No, it's awful. It's awful. WILLIAMS: OK. So they tell you that. You're waiting. What happened? They put him on the drip? Ms. PRESTON: They put him on the drip. They--and we just waited with him and, you know, prayed that he would be OK. No, I'm fine. But he--he became fine until--at that moment, I spoke with all the other parents to find out--they gave us a questionnaire, 'What have you done? You know, has he been exposed to this, that?' Every single parent had checked yes to--that they had cleaned their carpets ... WILLIAMS: Hear this. Ms. PRESTON: ... with chemicals. WILLIAMS: They had had their carpets cleaned or they had cleaned them car--their carpets themselves with chemicals. Of course, your son, at age two, crawling around. Ms. PRESTON: Is crawling on the floor. And they say that it's completely fine, you're safe. It--and it's people--it--it's not just children. It's the elderly, it's people in general, because they say, 'Well, once it dries after four to five hours, it's fine. It's fine.' It's not fine. It gases off continuously. WILLIAMS: And there's residual laying there. Not everybody will be affected by a chemical like this the same way. You know, a lot has to do with people's individual immune systems, but we also have to remember that children's immune systems are not completely formed. Ms. PRESTON: Exactly. WILLIAMS: Even though they get the mother's immune system when they're born, they are not completely formed. They are forming. They are getting used to things in the environment. Ms. PRESTON: Exactly. WILLIAMS: And it's tough enough just walking around breathing in the air. Ms. PRESTON: And their bodies are this big, so they're absorbing, whether it's through the chemicals in the carpet or chemicals that you use to clean in your home or the water or the air, they absorb per pound far more than we do. So they're far more susceptible. WILLIAMS: It took Jett--the first day they had him on the drip, how long did it take for him to--like, just to start settling down for--the temperatures were stable? Ms. PRESTON: It was a couple of--well, his temperature they had got down and they would keep down. And then it took a couple of days before he was out of the woods. WILLIAMS: Out of the woods. Ms. PRESTON: And then he was fine. WILLIAMS: And then is there a residual effect that you see? Ms. PRESTON: He has allergies, and at one point he had a very severe asthma attack. And that's another thing. Asthma is up. There's five million kids with asthma. WILLIAMS: And we see the rate of asthma going up... Ms. PRESTON: It's skyrocketing. WILLIAMS: ...every single year. More and more children are being diagnosed with asth--with asthma. More and more adults ... Ms. PRESTON: Adults. WILLIAMS: ...who have lived their entire lives asthma-free are all of a sudden coming down with asthma. Ms. PRESTON: Exactly. WILLIAMS: So it's--and I'll even throw out a little thing because I know you had asked my producer about this, but it's like with the illness that I have, you know, 10, 15 years ago, you never saw this illness reported above 350,000 people. I have MS. Ms. PRESTON: Exactly. WILLIAMS: Three hundred thousand people in the country, in this--in the United States of America supposedly have had MS for the last 30 years. The number never went up, by the way. Even when I got diagnosed, it still stayed at 300,000. It didn't go to 300,001. It stayed at 300,000. Ms. PRESTON: Interesting sort of reporting. WILLIAMS: I know. So I started--I know. So I started asking questions about this and had a poll done myself by the Zogby corporation that ended up coming back saying that over 2.75 million Americans today suffer from this disease, whereas 15 years ago, doctors only thought less than 250,000 people suffered from it. We're getting that number reconfirmed right now by Gallup. Ms. PRESTON: Wow. WILLIAMS: But the truth of the matter is illnesses like this which are immune dis--dis--immune disease or immune system diseases are on the rise. Ms. PRESTON: Nervous system diseases and ... WILLIAMS: Nervous system disease. Ms. PRESTON: ...lupus, cancer. It's not just childhood ill--illnesses, too. It's illnesses in adults. WILLIAMS: You know, let me do this. Let em take a little break. When we come back, let's talk a little bit about how Jett's doing now. Ms. PRESTON: OK. WILLIAMS: Because it took a while for you to get him through the woods period, but you also did something I think--which I think is pretty ingenious. You went and tried to detox him, correct? Ms. PRESTON: Mm-hmm. WILLIAMS: And there's a detoxification program you went through. Ms. PRESTON: Yes. WILLIAMS: Let's talk about it. Let's take a break. We'll be back right after this. Ms. PRESTON: (From "Not Under My Roof," courtesy CHEC) Since babies spend a lot of time on the floor, there are all sorts of things that they breathe that we don't. See the world the way your baby does. This is your baby's crawl zone. They breath four inches from the ground. Carpets trap all kinds of residues. Wood or linoleum floors with area rugs that you can wash are healthier. (Announcements) WILLIAMS: We are talking today to mother, actress, celebrity, but let's go back to mother because I really think that's part of--that's the reason why you're here. Ms. PRESTON: The most important, yeah. WILLIAMS: And most important. When it came to Jett, after he got out of the woods, I'm sure you had to--to consider maybe this toxin is still in him and it's just not affecting him. Ms. PRESTON: Absolutely. WILLIAMS: OK. So what did you do initially when you got him home? Ms. PRESTON: Initially we--I actually had a friend of mine who's here today, an environmental scientist and a toxicologist, go through our home and tell us exactly what was going on in the home. It wasn't only the carpet. We had a lot of cleansers under the sink. We were using all sorts of chemicals. There was a vent that was coming into the house. We were living on a golf course. WILLIAMS: Wait, let's talk about that vent coming into the house. Ms. PRESTON: Pesticides. Yeah. WILLIAMS: The vent coming into the house was actually blowing right into the house, right into Jett's room. Ms. PRESTON: Into his bedroom--into his bedroom, exactly. WILLIAMS: Excuse me. And you lived on a golf course, so therefore, all the chemicals that would be... Ms. PRESTON: Pesticides. WILLIAMS: ...pesticides, all of the fertilizers, all that junk. Ms. PRESTON: Which I didn't realize. And I thought, 'Gosh, they're--they're so gorgeous and green, it looks so beautiful.' He'd seen somebody spraying there during the day and he befriended him. He said, 'What are you doing?' And he said, 'Oh, nothing. I'm'--I mean, really befriended him. He said, 'Don't tell the neighbors because they'd get upset, but we come in at night between 3 and 4 in the morning and just douse the grounds with tons of pesticides.' WILLIAMS: But with Jett, you started him on a program that I think is talked about in this book by L. Ron Hubbard. It's "Clean--Clear Body and Clear Mind." Ms. PRESTON: Exactly. WILLIAMS: Why don't you tell us a little bit about this? Ms. PRESTON: Well, this is a p--program that's detailed in the book. We basically store all of these chemicals and poisons and toxins that you breathe, eat, you know, that you're around constantly. Radiation from the sun, you store it in your fatty tissues. And over the years it builds up, and this is a program of how you can detoxify it completely and purify your body. It's brilliant. WILLIAMS: What... Ms. PRESTON: It's so brilliant. And the stories in here are so fascinating, of people, painters going in and having colors come out of their skin. But people who are not sick at all having--I had Novocain and I had a lot of dental work. I lived in Hawaii. I was born and raised in Hawaii, so I had a lot of sun. I had my entire mouth get numb again for an hour and a half in there, the Novocain came out. Different drugs that I had used, the radiation from the sun. I had a bathing suit when I was seven years old--this is completely true. I had a bathing suit that I thought was so cool with holes in the side and a hole in the center. WILLIAMS: At seven? Ms. PRESTON: At seven, yes. It was ver--I mean, it wasn't risque, but it was like cool. You know, I thought it was really cool. And I got a sunburn in it. And 20 years later, I had this same sunburn come out in my skin, the entire sunburn. WILLIAMS: Well, let me just read a little bit. 'The 20th century brought miraculous changes in technology and industry. Again and again, science refashioned or outwitted nature to improve our health and comfort, so we thought. This assault is massive. With the ma--with the multitude of synthetic chemicals in use and new chemicals introduced each day, there is no way to avoid--to avoid exposure to toxins, pesticides, drugs, residues and chemicals that come to you in food you eat, the water you drink and the air you breathe.' This book will also tell you how to clean this out of your system. Ms. PRESTON: Exactly. WILLIAMS: She's going to give everybody in this audience a copy of
this Ms. PRESTON: Yeah. WILLIAMS ...she paid for herself when you leave at the end of the day. But, you know, yes, there--there are some people out there that have helped you understand this. But I--I've got to back up a little bit because I can't have you here and not ask you some questions. Ms. PRESTON: You can ask me questions. WILLIAMS: ...(Unintelligible) about that big question I had to ask you ... Ms. PRESTON: Yes. WILLIAMS: ...about you and John. But how the devil could you be married to a man who says, 'All right, baby, we've got to go to Florida. Come on,' and you go to the airport, you sit in the back seat with your children and let him go sit up front and fly the plane? Ms. PRESTON: Oh. WILLIAMS: I thought, if you were my wife and said, 'I'm going to go fly you somewhere,' I'd be saying, 'I'll see you in Florida, baby girl.' No. Ms. PRESTON: But you know what ? WILLIAMS: No, I'm playing. Ms. PRESTON: He is--he has been a pilot for over 30 years. He's got eight jet ratings. He now has a rating for a 747. WILLIAMS: Oh, my goodness. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah. WILLIAMS: Yeah. But I--I--I... Ms. PRESTON: He's an amazing pilot. I'd actually rather fly with him than any other pilot on the planet. WILLIAMS: I can imagine that. Yeah, you know, let's back up, because, you know, you had--back in the day, you started in this business, let's see, first when you were a child. Ms. PRESTON: A few years ago, a couple of years ago. WILLIAMS: I'm not going to say when. You know, back in the day... Ms. PRESTON: Yes. WILLIAMS: ...you know, back, when I was--I was probably in college when you was--were born. Ms. PRESTON: Oh, good. Thank you. WILLIAMS: I'm trying to be a nice guy. Ms. PRESTON: Thank you, really nice. WILLIAMS: That's me. All right, so... Ms. PRESTON: We're probably exactly the same age. WILLIAMS: Oh, no. I'm a little older than you, a lot older than you. But anyway, after high--in--you--you were born--where were you born, first? Ms. PRESTON: In Hawaii, born and raised. WILLIAMS: In Hawaii. And your parents spent some time in the Middle East. Ms. PRESTON: In the Middle East. We lived in Iraq for a year. When my parents got separated and divorced, I lived in Australia for a year with my mom and my brother. Actually for almost two years. WILLIAMS: Two years. And then you ended up going back to Hawaii. Ms. PRESTON: Back to Hawaii, graduated from high school. WILLIAMS: And during high school, now were you into acting and--and music and the arts? Ms. PRESTON: I was. I was into the arts and into performing and I had done a lot--I was starting to do a lot of commercials. WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. Ms. PRESTON: A lot of Japanese commercials, some national commercials that had come. WILLIAMS: And then I heard you were in competition for a role--for a role that you got called back to a couple of times, right? Ms. PRESTON: Which one ? WILLIAMS: Was it "Blue Lagoon"? Ms. PRESTON: Yes. Yes. WILLIAMS: Are you kidding me? Now, wait. Think about this for a second. It--who--it--who was that other lady that got the part? What's her name? Ms. PRESTON: Brooke something--I'm not sure. WILLIAMS: Brooke somebody. I'm sorry, she's a friend of mine.
Brooke Ms. PRESTON: Yeah. WILLIAMS: I'm not knocking you, Brooke. But it could have been Kelly. You could have been that little girl swimming around in the water. Ms. PRESTON: Exactly, like a fish. WILLIAMS: Like a fish. Ms. PRESTON: Well, I wasn't an actress then. I--I wasn't an actress. They pulled me out of PE and sent me to LA and--on a picture. And I screen tested, and it was either going to be a well-known girl, a celebrity girl, Brooke Shields and another guy, you know, Chris Atkins ... WILLIAMS: Sure. Ms. PRESTON: ...or an unknown girl and a more well-known guy. WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. And... Ms. PRESTON: And it obviously was Brooke. WILLIAMS: ...they picked--but you know what? Now some might say... Ms. PRESTON: No, but it was good. WILLIAMS: It was good. It was good for her career. But it was also good for yours. Ms. PRESTON: Mm-hmm. WILLIAMS: Let me take a break. When we come back, let's talk about how good it was for her career. We'll be back right after this. Ms. PRESTON: (From "Not Under My Roof," courtesy CHEC) Have you ever thought where your shoes have been? It's a scary thought. We walk outside and bring home all sorts of junk on the soles of our shoes right into our living room. So leave your shoes at the door, or at least wipe them on a door mat. (Announcements) WILLIAMS: So again, welcome Kelly Preston to the show. Ms. PRESTON: Thank you. WILLIAMS: I do have to go back just a bit because, you know, I started reading stuff about you and I thought this was so cute. And I won't--I won't mention some of your former boyfriends, like you know... Ms. PRESTON: Oh, my God. WILLIAMS: Can I? Can I? No, well... Ms. PRESTON: You can, I mean ... WILLIAMS: OK, well, the only reason I mention this... Ms. PRESTON: It's fun. WILLIAMS: ...is because I know John said something to you about it. That's what I was told. So--I mean, she used to go out with like, you know, George Clooney, you know, couple of guys like that. And then one day--because you had met John before this. Ms. PRESTON: Mm-hmm. WILLIAMS: So you guys kind of hit it off on the movie set once, right? Kind of got a little close. Ms. PRESTON: Yes, very much. Yes. WILLIAMS: Very much so. But then you became distant. Ms. PRESTON: No, it was because we couldn't get together at that time. WILLIAMS: Ah, so you went out with Charlie Sheen for a little while. Ms. PRESTON: Af--yeah, for a year. WILLIAMS: For a year, and you--then George Clooney. And then you were invited... Ms. PRESTON: For a year. WILLIAMS: ...to a--to a party at someone's house. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah, Kirstie ... WILLIAMS: Kirstie... Ms. PRESTON: ...Alley. WILLIAMS: ...Alley. Well, I know her, too. I know Kirstie. And she just decided, you know, she wanted the two of you to be together, right? Ms. PRESTON: She's always wanted us together. So she sat us next to each other at the table, and Johnny kept whispering to me, 'I really want to talk to you after dinner. Will you come back to my room or I'll come back to yours, you know, I just want to talk to you about something.' So I did, and he said, 'Are you over...' WILLIAMS: You know who. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah. And I wa--because we had been broken up for months. And I said, 'Yes.' And he said, 'Well, would you like to try being boyfriend and girlfriend?' And I said, 'Yes.' It was so sweet. He's so sweet. WILLIAMS: Come on, that's--that's why I wanted her to talk about that. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah. WILLIAMS: Everywhere ...(unintelligible) says--listen, you know what? I had--I was very fortunate, was it two years ago? I attended a fund-raiser in Los Angeles called a Race to Erase--which is one of the biggest fund-raiser for MS held by Nancy Davis, who--her foundation. And I had a chance to stand, honestly--you've got to--before I show you this picture, you've got to get this. On the stage with the likes of Kelly and her husband and several other celebrities. But the thing that was the trip was over on the piano was Stevie Wonder. Do you remember this? Ms. PRESTON: It was so fantastic. WILLIAMS: And Stevie Wonder was up here jamming, and guess what? We all got to sing with Stevie Wonder. Take a look at this picture right here. There you go, Montel, John and Kelly. Do you kn... Ms. PRESTON: Yes. WILLIAMS: Isn't that so great? That's a great picture. I have that picture hanging in my office. All right, so enough of this. Let's go back to just trying to figure out how to help people understand what's going on in your home. You have worked with a toxicologist, Mr. Michael... Ms. PRESTON: Wisner. WILLIAMS: ...Wisner. Mr. Michael Wisner. Pl--I tell you what, let's welcome him to the show. Ms. PRESTON: Oh, good. WILLIAMS: Welcome Michael to the show. Mr. MICHAEL WISNER (Toxicologist): Hi. WILLIAMS: How are you, sir? Mr. WISNER: Hi, Montel. WILLIAMS: Nice to meet you. Ms. PRESTON: Oh, hi. Mr. WISNER: Hi, Kelly. How are you? WILLIAMS: Please, have a seat. When--when did you start working in this as a field? Mr. WISNER: Well, about 20 years ago, myself and a research foundation started looking at how to get chemicals that store in the human body--you know, everybody watching today for the US EPA has as many as 250 known toxins stored in the body's tissue. And we're seeing compelling evidence--as I think you mentioned earlier on the show--this is contributing to increases in certain types of diseases. WILLIAMS: When Kelly approached you and said, 'Look, you know, my son has this bizarre thing, Kawasaki syndrome,' what did you tell her first? Mr. WISNER: My God, you know. And I said, 'Lookit'--you know, Kelly called me and said, 'Would you go look at the house?' So I said, 'You bet.' And so while I've always ex--I--my area of expertise has been human chemical exposure, internal exposure, I s--I've learned a great deal about the things that you can get exposed to from the home. So I went up and looked at Kelly's home for her and John. WILLIAMS: And when you take a look at her--I mean, how could we, you know, the--the average person know that, OK, the soap that I have on the table--we're not going to talk about individual products... Mr. WISNER: Sure. Ms. PRESTON: Mm-hmm. WILLIAMS: ...but how do I know what's bad and what's good. And what could be sending off some sort of fume that's in the air that my child could run through or I could run through? How do I know? Mr. WISNER: Well, you know, you don't have to, like, get paranoid. OK, that's the first thing I tell people, you know. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah, we're not here to scare anybody. Mr. WISNER: You know, you live--we live in a chemical world and it's enhanced our quality of life in many ways. OK, but there's obvious things. I think Kelly mentioned your shoes. You track 40 percent of the lead, which is a neurotoxin, toxic to our brain, our children's IQ... WILLIAMS: And let's make sure we--let's talk about this because we hear reports all the time about lead poisoning for children, how you want to keep your children away from lead. Schools across the country have been closed when they find just a sp--the slightest amount of lead... Mr. WISNER: Right. WILLIAMS: ...in the paint on the walls. So go ahead. So we can actually track this into our house? Mr. WISNER: Well, the majority of lead that you and our family--our families are exposed to we walk in our shoes from the outside street grit. Because air pollution, vehicular, industrial exhaust goes up in the air, comes down and we walk on it. And we walk it into our home on our shoes. So I tell people--and this has actually been studied. If you leave your shoes at the door and just have house shoes or house slippers, just like the Japanese have done for centuries, you'll reduce your family's lead exposure by 40 percent for free. Ms. PRESTON: Forty percent. WILLIAMS: Amazing. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah. It's a very simple thing to do. WILLIAMS: That's--that's just putting slippers by the door... Mr. WISNER: Yeah. WILLIAMS: ...coming in and leaving your shoes. Well, you know, we sent Michael to my manager's house, Melanie McLaughlin's house, to see if he could find anything up there. Take a look at this. (Excerpt from videotape) Mr. WISNER: Hi. Ms. MELANIE McLAUGHLIN (Montel's Manager): Hello. Mr. WISNER: Michael Wisner. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Hi, Melanie McLaughlin. Come on in. Mr. WISNER: Nice to meet you, Melanie. Great house. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Thank you. Thank you. So, Michael, I heard you were the right guy for the job to tell us if our home is safe or not. I have a four- and six-year-old and I have another baby on the way in a few months. And... Mr. WISNER: Congratulations. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Thank you. And three dogs in the house, so I want to make sure it's safe for them, too. Mr. WISNER: Sure. You know, one thing I realized here is that you have all this carpeting. A square foot of domestic carpeting can have as many as 10 million microorganisms. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: OK. Mr. WISNER: It--it's a great place for things to grow. How do you clean it? Ms. McLAUGHLIN: We have our--our own steam cleaner. Mr. WISNER: Uh-huh. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: We clean it probably once a month with chemicals. Mr. WISNER: Those chemicals that are used to clean and spot remove, they can be very harsh. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: OK. Mr. WISNER: They are absolutely associated with certain kinds of, oh, nerve problems and--and... Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Sure. They actually give me a headache. Mr. WISNER: Exactly. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Is there something that I can do to make it safer for the family? Mr. WISNER: Absolutely. I mean, there's a couple of things. Number one, have a vacuum that has what's called a HEPA filter. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: OK. I have that. Mr. WISNER: A high energy filtration on the exhaust... Ms. McLAUGHLIN: OK. Mr. WISNER: ...so that when you do carpet, it's not blowing bad stuff out the heat exhaust in the air. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: OK. Mr. WISNER: Secondly, when you do clean it, only use a natural soap... Ms. McLAUGHLIN: OK. Mr. WISNER: ...mainly carpet cleaner without any chemicals. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: This is the kitchen. Mr. WISNER: It's great. This is a great cooking range. If you run a gas range for one hour at 350 degrees, you are producing as much pollution in terms of carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide as you'll get on a real smoggy day in LA. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Wow. Mr. WISNER: OK. So when you're cooking with a gas range, you've got a lot of cooking, it's the holidays and so forth, make sure the vent fan's on full go. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: OK. OK. Mr. WISNER: OK, and I--even in the winter, I would crack the window a little because, really, the solution is sh--is ventilation. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: This is our pantry. We keep food and a lot of our cleaning supplies stored in here because we buy in bulk. Mr. WISNER: You get an A plus. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Oh, great. Mr. WISNER: This is impressive, like, you have non-toxic-containing mildew removal which is like using natural substances to kill mid--mildew rather than harsh chemicals. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Right. Mr. WISNER: I don't see anything in here that concerns me at all. I mean, it's just a really good job. So how old is the swing set? Ms. McLAUGHLIN: It's about seven years old. Mr. WISNER: Seven years. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Yeah. Mr. WISNER: The way that this wood has been treated for years is with hexavalent chromium and arsenic. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Arsenic? Isn't that poisonous? Mr. WISNER: It is. What they did was, the government allowed the use of arsenic and--and chromium as a wood preserver. The problem was that loophole created wood preservatives on products that started being used in the home. If you ever replace--replace any of the wood here, you want to just check it to make sure if it was treated with chromium or arsenic, that you seal it. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Right. Mr. WISNER: Because if you seal the wood or paint it, then--then there's no dermal absorption that the child can get onto his hands. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: So how'd my house rate? Mr. WISNER: Well, it actually rates very well. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Oh, great. Mr. WISNER: I would give it--definitely, I'd give it a B plus to an A minus. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: OK. Mr. WISNER: I mean, you did so many things right. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Thank you very much. Thank you for your time. Mr. WISNER: Really nice to meet you. Ms. McLAUGHLIN: Nice meeting you. WILLIAMS: I'll tell you what, Michael, let me take a little break, and when we come back, you can tell me what you found at m--at my manager's house. So I'll talk to her about managing her life. I'll take a break. We'll be back right after this. Ms. PRESTON: (From "Not Under My Roof," courtesy CHEC) Ah, fresh air. Between sleeping and playtime, your baby can spend more than 12 hours a day in her room. So open up a door or window and keep the fresh air coming in. (Announcements) WILLIAMS: All right. So, Michael, what did you find at Melanie's house? And I will tell you something, my manager Melanie is sitting over in her office right now watching this from afar because... Ms. PRESTON: Uh-oh, she's biting her nails. WILLIAMS: ...this is the last place she ever wants to be in front of a camera. But what did you find at her house? Mr. WISNER: Well, you know, I'll tell you. I found a lot more things right than wrong. I was impressed. I mean, the first thing... WILLIAMS: She deserves one of those. Mr. WISNER: I felt like the--I--I felt like the toxic police, you know. But as we drove down the--the road to her house, the first thing I noticed was there's no power lines, none. Because power lines, particularly those big high tension wires, they can give off electromagnetic frequencies, radiation just like you hear from the cell phone. If you have those right next to your house, not a good thing. Ms. PRESTON: Radiation stores, too. WILLIAMS: I got to talk to you about... Mr. WISNER: Sure. WILLIAMS: ...well, since you went there, let's go there before you complete what happened at Melanie's house--the phone. I--you know, you hear all kinds of things, whether or not it's safe, it's not safe, cell phones--I--I--this bugs me to no end. I put the cell phone to the side of my head and that cell phone starts to heat up my ear. Ms. PRESTON: Hot, yeah. Mr. WISNER: Mm-hmm. WILLIAMS: Now, I'm sorry. It's like a microwave. Am I microwaving my brain? Because I'm telling you, I'm trying to get a little wire thing, but then I hate that because you're walking down the street, you look like you're talking to the air. 'Hello, yeah, well, cool.' You look like you're crazy. Mr. WISNER: Well, let me say this. I mean, the--there's various studies, OK. But it comes back to the whole subject of toxins, too. It's like, lookit, if you can reduce exposures in the things you do in daily life, better. We're not all perfect. You know, so if you made five mistakes a day eating bad stuff and you read--you read "Clear Body, Clear Mind," you read books on it and you make two mistakes, that's 1,500 less mistakes a year. Ms. PRESTON: Absolutely. Mr. WISNER: OK, so it adds up. Ms. PRESTON: And then you can also do the program. I mean, I'm telling you. We were talking about it at break. WILLIAMS: During break, sure. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah, that you get--you can--it's not just for really sick people. It's for people who are well, who just want to feel better, be more alert. My memory--my memory--I wasn't as forgetful. I was brighter. I was clearer. I could think better. I was more energetic. I mean, I was really healthy. And then afterward, it was--life was different. I tasted things more. I smelled them better. Yeah, it's really interesting. WILLIAMS: Well, it clearly identifies it. There are chemicals in our environment that can lower your IQ... Ms. PRESTON: Mm-hmm. Mr. WISNER: Absolutely. WILLIAMS: ...that can make your ba--throw your balance off, make you a little fatigued, get you a little bit more crampy, all kinds of things. Mr. WISNER: Well, you know, all the science aside, you know, because we've done all the studies, but the truth of the matter is we looked, clinically, medically, at 3,000 well people doing this detoxification program, like you and me, Kelly, the audience, right? And we studied them. And we saw increases in IQ, reaction time, immune system functions. And I can't describe this as a scientist, but they were just happier. They were j--they just thought more clearly. WILLIAMS: Well, again, the book is "Clear M--Clear Body, Clear Mind," by L. Ron Hubbard. Go out and pick up a copy. Before we introduce our next guest, which is really just a--a follow-up to exactly what we're talking about, I want you to take a look at this. (Excerpt from videotape) CLAUDIA (Was Poisoned By Chemicals Used To Dry Clean Blankets): I've been telling my story, and finally, someone listened. In 1995, I became very ill. I had ringing in my ears, leg spasms and severe dizziness. The doctor said I was having feminine problems and sent me home. Years passed, and the symptoms got worse. I couldn't sleep. I couldn't breathe. My heart would race and I thought I was going to die. The doctors said I had bronchitis and sent me to bed. No one knew it was my bedroom that was killing me. (End of excerpt) WILLIAMS: No one knew it was my bedroom that was killing me. Please welcome Claudia to the show. Claudia, when did you very first start feeling sick--feeling ill? CLAUDIA: Years ago. I have two--two wool blankets that I had dry cleaned. And I would go back and forth between here and Colorado and have them both dry cleaned. And I started getting sick in--in bed. I'd get dizzy and I couldn't get out of bed in the morning. And... WILLIAMS: The first time you went to a doctor--because, I mean this is--this is the thing that I hear so often when patients go in and doctors don't understand the ideology or what's going on. They just immediately think hypochondriac, in your head. But when you first walked in... CLAUDIA: Absolutely, right? WILLIAMS: ...that's what you got. CLAUDIA: Absolutely. In the beginning, I was told, 'Oh, it's--it's female things. You're probably going through pre-menopause.' And then they'd send me home, or they'd try to give me some kind of hormones or something. And then later, as the symptoms got worse and worse, it--it got to the point where I was going into tachycardia. I couldn't breathe. My--my--my lungs weren't working. My heart was stopping. I went to emergency... WILLIAMS: But you were seeing a doctor? You're seeing a doctor over and over. CLAUDIA: I--yes. WILLIAMS: And what did the doctor say again? And I--and we're not saying his name so you can say--and I know this was--this was--was extremely frustrating for you. CLAUDIA: I--in--first he said I was in, not that many words, a hypochondriac. And then the second time this year, when I went back saying 'Something in my bedroom is killing me, I need--I need help,' he took me--walked me down the hall and put me in a room because I was in spasms. The chemicals had gotten me to a point where it'd done such nerve damage, I couldn't walk. I couldn't talk. I didn't know who my husband--I knew I was married but I didn't know what my husband looked like or--or what the house looked like. And he--he--he said, 'You know, you have been chemically poisoned.' Because I believed that. I believed something in the bedroom--he said, 'And you just sit here because there's no anti-toxin--until it works its way out.' And then he went and called my husband and told him that I was psychotic. Or he didn't know--my husband called and said, 'Why didn't she come home?' He didn't call him. And he said, 'Your wife is psychotic.' WILLIAMS: Psychotic. You later found out that you do have a level of chemical in your body from the dry cleaning that's--What?--like 1,000 times higher than what most people would ever come in contact with? CLAUDIA: Well, I don't know how high in my body you could say, but I know that I--it was dry cleaning. I had it--my blanket tested because I had to prove my integrity that--because my husband after that questioned everything I did. And the blanket came back 20--six months after it was dry cleaned, it came back 27 times the toxic that the--the standard for perc, which is so toxic that it has to be taken from dry cleaners in haz-mat men and that's in our--that's in all our dry cleaning--all of our dry cleaning. WILLIAMS: And since you started the plan--you're also on this detoxification program, no? CLAUDIA: Thank God. It saved my life. I was--I would be dead. Four--eight weeks ago, I was on my death bed. I couldn't breath the air inside my house. It turned to chemical--multiple chemical sensitivity, so I could not breathe the air outside my house. I would black out if I got near a dry cleaners. A block from a dry cleaners and I started doing this (imitates being dizzy) and I couldn't breath and it--it causes--this glue to come out of me and it--it--it glues your throat together and my nose together and I would wake up gasping for air because everything's blocked. And through the program, I see it coming out again and it does it. Ms. PRESTON: It came out through her skin. WILLIAMS: You can even see--I guess after you started this program, you could see through the sweat, when you wiped your skin, that chemical... CLAUDIA: It's black. WILLIAMS: ...the chemical is in her sweat coming out. And this is now proven. Mr. WISNER: Absolutely. WILLIAMS: She was at toxic a level. Mr. WISNER: Well, she was exposed to perchloroethylene, which is a common dry cleaning chemical. I always tell people, you know, don't have them bag your dry cleaning. Go to a green or--green dry cleaner. Don't use that stuff. But Claudia was exposed to that at high levels and that chemical stores in the human fat tissues. CLAUDIA: There was a point where I was actually sleeping in my car because I couldn't breathe the air inside and I couldn't go out and breathe the air outside and there was no where that I could go because... WILLIAMS: I--I'm with you. And I--I'll tell you something. Not everyone will have this reaction. Mr. WISNER: Right. WILLIAMS: But can you just imagine being at home and taking your child to and from the doctors once a week, twice a week, three times a week, trying to figure out what's wrong and a lot of--unfortunately, a lot of doctors and medical professionals are not trained in this area. Mr. WISNER: The National ... Ms. PRESTON: No. Mr. WISNER: ...Academy of Sciences published a report just a few years ago and said 85 percent of doctors--good doctors are inadequately trained to diagnose a chemical toxic exposure. WILLIAMS: Wow, that says enough right there. We'll take a break. We'll be back right after this. (Graphic on screen) FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT CHEMICAL TOXINS
/ LOG ONTO: www.montelshow.com (Announcements) WILLIAMS: I mean, Michael, there could be so many people sitting out there right now watching this show, and... Mr. WISNER: Right. WILLIAMS: ...I'm not trying to get--to scare anybody. This is not a scare tactic. We're just trying to make you think about your environment. Ms. PRESTON: Ooh. WILLIAMS: A lot of you at home have your entire houses carpeted and you've been running that stupid thing that you bought down at the corner drugstore... Ms. PRESTON: Yeah. WILLIAMS: ...back and forth, pouring this big bottle in the back of it and just doing the floors every day. And your children are running around on the floor and you wonder why kids are catching colds. Ms. PRESTON: Yes. Mr. WISNER: Well, that--you know, we use pesticides in the home that we don't need to kill bugs. There's many--a hundred safe ways to do it. Ms. PRESTON: You can use boric acid. Mr. WISNER: Boric acid will kill bugs. You don't have to spray pesticides, you know. And then the detoxification program, I mean, that's a survival kit in--in the 21st century chemical world we live in, you know. Ms. PRESTON: For anybody, no matter... Mr. WISNER: For anyone. Ms. PRESTON: ... if the person's sick. Mr. WISNER: You know, it's just something we need to--to look into doing. WILLIAMS: Well, let's talk a little bit more about those alternatives then. Mr. WISNER: Mm-hmm. WILLIAMS: You were saying that, you know, everybody uses--I won't say the name of the product, but you know alcohol-based or chemical-based solvents to clean the countertops. Mr. WISNER: Oh, yeah. WILLIAMS: What's the best way to clean the countertop? Mr. WISNER: Kelly is probably--you know, she's become almost more expert in this than I. She's a--on the board of directors of the--of a foundation that's... Ms. PRESTON: Children's Health and Environmental Coalition. I'm on the board of directors. I'm their national spokesperson. But there's so many non-toxic alternatives available on the market. There's also baking soda, vinegar. There are so many different things that you can... WILLIAMS: But, you know l--let's--let's... Ms. PRESTON: You can buy things. You can make things. If you--if you have carpets and you've been cleaning them with chemicals, just steam clean them a couple of times with hot, hot water, you will smell the exact same chemicals coming out of your carpet. It's so--it does--they don't go away. They don't drift off. WILLIAMS: And you would recommend that, you know, maybe it's time that we stop doing the full wall-to-wall carpeting thing. Mr. WISNER: Absolutely. WILLIAMS: And start just getting an area rug but keeping those floors open so that you're not having something that's a trap. Ms. PRESTON: It's a... Mr. WISNER: We had four people come to us who've built a home, their dream home in New Hampshire, two children--three children, a colonel in the Army. And they finally put in the new carpet for their dream home. They got totally sick. They didn't know what it was. Finally they were told, just like Claudia, 'You 're crazy. It's psychosomatic.' It's this and that. They went to a doctor in Boston who tested the carpet with mice and within one hour, all the mice died. And these people were sick. And they came to HealthMed and we put them through the detoxification program and they're well to this day. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah, they're all well. The children, the adults, everything. Mr. WISNER: The adults. WILLIAMS: Makes you cr--start to think. And that was because that particular lot of carpeting was not cured appropriately. Ms. PRESTON: Yes, it didn't dry. Mr. WISNER: Yes. The latex backing wasn't cured fully and it off-gassed chemicals, like Kelly is talking about, and it made them ill. Ms. PRESTON: I still have some carpeting, but what I've done is--well, if you buy, you buy natural fibers and then you let it cure. You let it dry outside for a couple of weeks. It will gas off and then you g--if you still--if you have carpeting, there are ways around it. Or just do it without chemicals. WILLIAMS: Real quick. Cleaning the kitchen 101, you said baking soda and what else ? Ms. PRESTON: Lemon, vinegar. There's--but there's also products that you can buy. There are amazing products on the market that clean beautifully and non-toxic. WILLIAMS: Non-toxic. So we should start looking for those and start demanding those kind of products now out of those people who are making a fortune. And we've been--you have been spending probably billions and billions and billions of dollars making people rich off of chemicals. If you stop spending that money, they will develop a product that you'll buy. Ms. PRESTON: Yes. WILLIAMS: So start buying the products that are green and I'll guarantee you, you'll start seeing ones on the shelves start to change from being non-green to being green. Ms. PRESTON: Exactly. Mr. WISNER: You're right. Ms. PRESTON: And fresh lemon scent doesn't mean that, 'Oh, this one's natural.' WILLIAMS: Right. Ms. PRESTON: You know? It may still have a lot of chemicals in it. Buy the ones that are natural. WILLIAMS: You've got it. Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this. (Announcements) WILLIAMS: Well, please welcome the executive editor of Health magazine, Ms. Liz--Lisa Delaney. Welcome her to the show. Come on up here, Lisa. Because see, she knows nothing about this. And you wanted to do something. Wh--you--you know, you ever see--you ever see a celebrity kind of sweat a little bit. I said, 'We have this huge surprise for you and I'm not telling you what it is.' It's a su--no, tell her what it is. Ms. LISA DELANEY (Health Magazine): Kelly, we--we are so honored to be able to present to you Health magazine's first Power Of One award and we named it the Power Of One award because it's--it's really to recognize individuals who are really making a difference in the wealth--the health and well-being of others--other people. And we just really are honored to be able to give this to you today. Ms. PRESTON: I'm honored. Thank you so much. Wow. Thank you. Ms. DELANEY: Thank you. WILLIAMS: Beautiful. Ms. PRESTON: Wow. That is so beautiful. WILLIAMS: Turn that around so we can take a peek. Ms. PRESTON: It's gorgeous. WILLIAMS: Thank you. Here, you sit up here. Sit down. Take my seat. Ms. DELANEY: Right there. Wow. WILLIAMS: Yeah, take my chair. You bring gifts like that, you can take my chair. Ms. DELANEY: Thank you. Ms. PRESTON: Thank you so much. Ms. DELANEY: You're welcome. WILLIAMS: You know, I--I know, when this show is all over, people are going to say, 'Well, Montel, you just did something that just--that's gonna do nothing but scare people and, you know, it's not right.' I'm going to get letters from, you know, the environmental--not the environmental people, from corporations that make all kinds of chemicals saying, 'That was really unjust what you said.' Ms. PRESTON: Uh-huh, exactly. WILLIAMS: But now let's tell the truth. It's not about scaring. All it is is about making us all concerned consumers, making us aware of what's going on in our homes, making us aware of what's going on with our children. And I will tell you, they still have not figured out--and I'm going to say it this way because I don't care what people think. They have not figured out what causes the disease that I have. This is the year--it is now 2002. This disease was first identified back in 1836. Now in the last two years, doctors have found out more about it, but no one knows what causes it. And there have been a lot of concerns around the world for environmental causes to illnesses like mine which is an immune disease disorder but also a neurological disorder. And when we talk about toxins that affect people neurologically, who knows, this could be part of my problem. Ms. PRESTON: Absolutely. CLAUDIA: Absolutely. Ms. PRESTON: Toxins, chemicals, mercury is a big one. Mercury toxicity we were talking about. WILLIAMS: Yeah. Ms. PRESTON: This program, the Clear Body, Clear Mind, the purification program, would be brilliant for you. I--I real--you know, we were talking about it on the break. WILLIAMS: We spoke about it. I'm going to tell you, I--I may have to figure out a way to do this and then I'll tell you whether or not I feel better. I'll figure it out. Mr. WISNER: There you go. WILLIAMS: I've got to get the time to do it and I will. Let me do this--let me take a little break, again. And when we come back, Kelly's got to tell us what's coming up because we're almost out of time. Ms. PRESTON: OK. WILLIAMS: Got a lot of stuff coming up. I'm just--gonna throw one out there. Did you know this lady's in the new movie "The Cat in the Hat" working with wa... Ms. PRESTON: With Mike Myers. WILLIAMS: ...with--my kid--with Mike Myers. But, you know, my kids, that's all they want to see. So I can't wait. Let's take a break. We'll be back right after this. (Announcements) WILLIAMS: So a lot of exciting things are coming up. I did mention that, "The Cat in the Hat" with Mike Myers. But you're--you're like one of the bus--busiest women in Hollywood. Ms. PRESTON: Well, not really. But I do have another couple movies. I have "A View from the Top," with Gwyneth Paltrow coming out as well, and "American Girl" that I just shot in London. WILLIAMS: Just finished that. Ms. PRESTON: Yes. WILLIAMS: And that will be--these will all be released within the next year, you think? Ms. PRESTON: "Cat in the Hat" will be in a year and the other two will be probably February and March that ar--area. WILLIAMS: You know, I--you know, we have--you have two children. Ms. PRESTON: Yeah. WILLIAMS: Right? You have Jett and you have Ella. Ms. PRESTON: Ella. Ella Bleu. WILLIAMS: Ella Bleu. Ms. PRESTON: She's two and a half. WILLIAMS: And going to be working on another one in between? Ms. PRESTON: Not right now, but absolutely I'd love to have another baby. I love--I love being pregnant and I love having children. WILLIAMS: Let me take a break. We'll be back right after this. (Announcements) WILLIAMS: Well, we are out of time, so I want to thank all of our guests for being here today. Thank you so much for coming and sharing and helping us all stay safe. Ms. PRESTON: Yes. Thank you. WILLIAMS: Thanks to Kelly, everyone in our audience, like I said earlier, will be leaving with a copy of "Clear Body, Clear Mind." And, you know, as you read the book, maybe you can't do the program right now but think ahead. Start thinking about trying to reduce those things that are toxic to us. It--the mo--more you reduce them, the better you will feel. There's no ifs, ands or buts. Ms. PRESTON: Absolutely. WILLIAMS: I think that's a fact. Since I was diagnosed, I've tried my best to do that in my own way and I know that's what keeps me going. Ms. PRESTON: That's wonderful. And those at home who would like to get the book, you can log on the Web site, clearbodyclearmind.com or I know that Borders has it and... Mr. WISNER: Waldens. Ms. PRESTON: ...Barnes & Nobles... Mr. WISNER: Barnes & Nobles. Ms. PRESTON: ...Waldens. There's major bookstores that you can buy it from. WILLIAMS: So go to the local bookstore an--near you. And, Kelly, we wish you so much luck... Ms. PRESTON: Oh, thank you. WILLIAMS: ...and--and success in the future. Ms. PRESTON: Thank you. WILLIAMS: Thank you so much for being here. And, Michael, thank you. I may have you come back because I've got a lot of friends of mine--even if you don't do the show, I've got some friends of mine, I'd love for you to just go over to the house and say, 'Could you clean that mess up?' Mr. WISNER: Oh, yeah. WILLIAMS: You know what I mean? And it might not be toxic, but it's toxic to me. All right. Mr. WISNER: OK. WILLIAMS: I'm out of time. Join us on the next MONTEL. Montel Williams, a shill for Scientology ? (cultnews.com- March 12, 2003)
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LA SCIENTOLOGIE DANS LES MÉDIAS
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Un must: "Ron Hubbard, le gourou démasqué" Ce livre de Russell Miller révèle la face cachée de la scientologie. On y découvre un Ron Hubbard, malade, mythomane et poursuivi par la justice. Il est disponible en format pdf ou html sur notre site. Nous avons également publié une version résumée.
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