Recently Beck got into the shipping forecast. "I
remember coming into the studio one day and my producer was sitting there
listening to it on his computer," he says. "I was like, 'What the hell is that?'
He told me, 'It's the most relaxing thing in the world.' He said he loves to
listens to it in the bath." Beck agreed - "the voices are just so pleasant" -
and decided to recreate it on the finale to his new album, The Information,
inviting an English friend into the studio to read out the coastal station
reports for Tiree, Stornoway and Lerwick (showers at all three). "It kind of
matched the mood of the song," he says.
The 36-year-old's ninth album is a welcome return to his mid-1990s form; it
has that old spring in its step and twinkle in its eye, with Beck laying his
absurdist rhymes over hip-hop beats and silly samples (you can hear his dog
panting at one point). There's also a long conversation between Dave Eggers and
Spike Jonze running in the background.
"We brought them in, and we were going to
have a commentary going through the whole album, almost like the two old men in
The Muppets. It was hilarious. A heavy beat would kick in and they would go,
'Shit ! Listen to that beat ! That drummer is so confident !' But we couldn't fit
it all in. I asked them, 'What would the ultimate record that ever could
possibly be made sound like ?' That's what they're going on about. They're saying
it would be like an illuminated manuscript, handmade by monks. Or it would be a
record that changed every time you listened to it. It was a great conversation."
Packaged with the album is a DVD of homemade videos for each song, featuring
Beck and friends messing about in fancy dress (Devendra Banhart pops up, as does
Beck's wife, the actor Marissa Ribisi, with whom he has a two-year-old son). The
daft, Dali-esque clips ensure that even the album's introspective songs can't be
accused of taking themselves too seriously.
At recent live shows, Beck has been joined onstage by marionettes, each of
them dressed like a member of the band, each of them spending the entire show
copying their human counterparts. The gap before the band's encore features a
film of the puppets, made that day at whatever location they happen to be
performing in. In Edinburgh, they bought little kilts and recreated Braveheart;
at V Festival in Chelmsford, they visited the Portaloos; and in Staffordshire
they trashed the dressing room of V headliners Radiohead. "Yeah, we apologised
to Radiohead for that," says Beck. "But, y'know - what can we do? They're
puppets."
For years he wanted robots on stage, but it was prohibitively expensive, so
he settled on a puppet show instead. The four puppeteers he now takes on tour
are serious professionals, and have worked on films such as Team America.
"They're great. Sometimes I look back at them during a show and the puppets will
be doing something completely ridiculous, like beating the shit out of each
other or doing these slow-motion Matrix moves."
Beck is a funny mix of the very silly and the very serious - a
philosopher-poet who likes dressing up and slapstick. But even on The
Information's home videos he never strays for long from his persona as the
deadpan hipster. "I am quite straight, yeah," he agrees. "There has been a lot
of humour in my music, but I think maybe there's a mistrust of that in
musicians. I guess you're always in danger of being dismissed as a clown."
He has combined these two aspects of himself, the straight man and the clown,
throughout his musical career, consistently changing and developing. In the 12
years since he burst onto the scene with his slacker anthem Loser, he's shifted
effortlessly from lo-fi rapper to lounge lizard, and then from "the new Prince"
of Midnite Vultures to dusty folk troubadour.
"I've just followed wherever the sounds take me," says Beck. Right at the
start of his career, he brokered a deal whereby he could release noisy,
experimental records on an independent label , Bong Load (1994's abstract
Stereopathic Soulmanure) and more commercial work on a major label, Geffen. The
arrangement soon came to an end when, to Beck's annoyance, Geffen decided to
release one of his indie efforts themselves (1998's Mutations). But if his indie
days are behind him, he has continued to avoid making obvious choices - probably
at the expense of greater mainstream success.
"I think if you're going to be one of the artists that rides the top the
whole time, you can't afford to take chances and experiment the way I have," he
shrugs. "But that's what I do. It's the choice I made. If I was in this to
achieve some sort of mass acceptance, or for the money, I'd proceed from a
totally different place." He sees himself as an outsider, and for years worked
on the assumption that his career could collapse at any moment. "So I just had a
laugh with it, y'know. I didn't take it seriously for a long, long time." This
might explain his lyrics. You might be able to hum Beck hits such as Devil's
Haircut or The New Pollution, but I'd hazard a guess you haven't the foggiest
what they're about. A journalist once asked Beck the meaning of a couple of
lines from Loser: "My time is a piece of wax falling on a termite/That's choking
on the splinters." "I don't know," came the considered reply.
Around the turn of the millennium, when Beck hit 30, he had a rethink about
the temporary nature of his career. "I sort of realised that I would still be
making records and that people are actually listening," he says. "So I decided
I'd like to say something." He made Sea Change, an album that painfully detailed
his break-up with long-term partner Leigh Limon; musically, its downbeat
folk-rock lacked Beck's usual sparkle.
What makes this new album so rewarding is its successful marriage of his
quirky, beats-driven side with his more direct, emotional writing. One minute
he's spitting classic Beck nonsense verse, the next he's singing sweet love
songs or worrying about the state of the world. One track, Dark Star, seems to
criticise American foreign policy, however obliquely - "A widow's tears washing
a soldier's bones/Sterilised egos, delirium sequels/Punctured by the arrows of
American eagles". Beck won't be drawn on his politics, however. "The whole mood
of the country is in some of the songs," is all he'll say.
He will admit to being a Scientologist, although in the past he has been
reluctant to talk about it. Today, he insists he's always happy to discuss it.
"I think journalists are more uncomfortable [with it]," he says, "but I'm fine."
While he doesn't come across as particularly knowledgeable or passionate on the
subject, he explains that Scientology is "something that you can draw on. It's
helpful." I ask him why Scientology is surrounded by so much mystery. "I think
that's in the media," he says. "It's very open and the actuality of it is quite
different." So it's a positive thing? "Oh yeah, absolutely. Doors are open.
People go and have lunch."
He affects surprise that people are so interested in Scientology. "I'm Jewish
as well. I was raised celebrating Jewish holidays and nobody ever asked about
that. And my grandfather was a Presbyterian minister, so I grew up with that,
too." He is, he says, a man of many faiths. "I also have a lot of friends who
are Buddhists. I grew up in a very culturally and racially diverse
neighbourhood. I think the key is tolerance and people stretching out of their
own perspective a little bit."
Beck admits he cares what people think of him. "It's something you can't
help. I mean, nobody wants to be misunderstood. But I'm not in the tabloids
wearing my whole life on my sleeve. I'm just a working musician." And that
working musician is happy with what he's achieved. "I wish I'd been able to make
more albums, but yeah, I think it's gone all right. For me, I feel like I'm
still in school. I'm just figuring all this out as I go along".
· The Information is released on Geffen on October 2.