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St.
Petersburg Times (Dec. 3, 1981):
"Report
on Scientology methods is 'must' reading"
In
the following article... the author refers to a
200-page report, apparently authored by Michael
Flynn, which seems most interesting ("... includes
many more shocking details of the working and deceptions
of Scientology.")
At
the time, the author wrote that the report "is
available for public to review at the city clerk's
office."
Is
this report available somewhere ?
-----
Is
it online ?
http://www.lermanet.com/82cwcommission/
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Hearings
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[
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Cover
page image of Cover of bound volume
Day
2 - pages 1 to 20 Ron Hubbard's son's testimony,
Ron DeWolfe
(
more RonDewolfe on this site:
Newspaper
interview with Ron DeWolfe HERE
Sworn
Affidavit by Ron DeWolfe from Flynn Litigation HERE)
Then,
I arrived in Phoenix, Arizona in early '52. He had
just arrived from Wichita with Mary Sue. And the
very first day -- the very first day I arrived,
he wanted me audited immediately. But I had been
-driven all night and I was eighteen years old.
I knew nothing about Scientology. All I had read
was Dianetics*: The Modern Science of Mental Health,
and it never really interested me very much as a
book when I was young. So, after about a couple
of weeks there, we got involved -- he asked me to
sit down on the couch, and I was high on Benzedrine,
Bennies. And we started doing, quote, "research"
on a book called History of Man. So, we spent a
couple, three days on that. Here's the book here,
The Scientology History of Man; here's a copy of
it. And all the incidents -- he did a few with Mary
Sue, but the majority of incidents in it were off
the top of my head, as I had upwards of twenty,
thirty milligrams of Bennies in me.
[
Bennies = Speed = amphetamines ]
Day
2 - pages 21-40 MR. DeWOLFE: Well, that is slightly
incorrect. I was very much a part of the criminal
conspiracy through the fifties,,* so it really wasn't
me watching it become a criminal conspiracy. It
would have to be I watched it continue to become
a criminal conspiracy, to be more accurate. Well,
you must realize that power corrupts, and. absolute
power corrupts absolutely. But I wish to paraphrase
on that, which is that, for instance, power is very
enjoyable, and total and absolute power is ecstasy.
2-23 The -- Scientology is a power and money game.
Day
2 - pages 41-60
MR.
LECHER: Your father wanted you to steal an H- bomb?
MR.
DeWOLFE: Yeah. He wanted me to
MR.
LECHER: From whom?
MR.
DEWOLFE: Anybody and everybody. We got -- I never
got into it, because.I said, "Oh, no, thank
you." And sort of -- things went click in my
head, and I said, "I don't -- I have two children
and I don't want to get involved in that."
And that was in late 1958.
MR.
LECHER: He wanted you to steal the parts or the
whole bomb?
MR.
DeWOLFE: No. He wanted a whole package. The but
the -- as an example, one of the things he said
to me.-was that he said it many, many times he said,
"Don't call it murder, call it suicide."
And there's another quote, "I connotate loyalty
as the highest ethic." That means, "Follow
me." That means, "Total dedication, total
loyalty to me, L. Ron Hubbard."And that's the
one-thing that he put before any
and
all everything. And -
Day
2 - pages 61-80. DeWOLFE: The origin simply was
that if anybody gave us any problem, any trouble,
why, we'd just attack them. We had -- we were pretty
successful at it. And if you're talking about power
and what have you, that was a lot of fun to take
on the FBI, take on the IRS, take on the government,
take on anybody and whip it out. And as I said,
I'm twenty -- in the early twenties, and we're stomping
the hell out of people and getting away with it.
But the point -- that's pretty heady stuff.
Day
2 - pages 81-100 MR. GREENE: I might direct your
attention to the last entry in the left-hand column:
In Nuclear and Atomic Physics, Hubbard received
an F.
The
faculty took action, which is indicated in the lower
right-hand corner of the exhibit, if you could move
it up on the screen. Mr. Hubbard was on probation
when he returned-in September of 1931. Again, directing
your attention to the left-hand column, in Mathematics/Calculus,
Hubbard received an F .
Day
2 pages 101-120 Ex-Member- Lori Taverna's testimony:
"he told me what he did. He said, "I had
to go into a building in Manhattan mid-town and
I had to get someone's fingerprints on a blank piece
of paper or an envelope." He said it was a
woman's fingerprints, someone who wrote a book against
Scientology. And he said, "I don't know why
I had to do this." He said, "But it must
have been something very important because I was
treated like a hero." He said they were all
making a very big fuss over this, and he was awarded
auditing as a reward for doing this project."
( referring to the framing of author Paulette cooper
for a bomb threat )
Day
2 pages 121-140 "I just couldn't bear it. I
felt that if I didn't leave at that point, I would
physically die; I couldn't live anymore. And I don't
remember going home; I was in a daze. I know I hid
at the airport; I was in fear of my life. I wasn't
sure what people were capable of, but I had heard
a lot of stories about things that were done to
people. And we have a policy in Scientology of handling
a blown student, that you are to physically restrain
them."
Day
2 pages 141-160 "He said, "I already know
what it is. The children have herpes."
And
my sister walked in and she saw infants -- she saw
babies on the floor. They had sores all over their
face and mouth. And my sister went into a rage.
She went in and she said, "I want these children
taken care of." And the Medical Officer said,
"Well, who are you? What are you doing here?"
He said, "As a matter of fact, I won't talk
to you anymore." He said, "We don't have
any money for a doctor."
So,
she said, "Well, you get the money." And
then, finally, my sister got so mad, she said, "Well,
if you don't do something about these children right
now, I'm calling the Board of Health." When
she said that, she got a lot of attention: GO people,
"Do you realize what you just said?" She
was declared PTS, threatening to embarrass or sue
Scientology, one of those categories.
The
Medical Officer called her -- he said, "You
just committed a suppressive act." She said,
"No. You committed the suppressive act."
She said, "I want these children cared for."
So,
I know this goes on. I've *seen it. I've seen
Day
2 pages 161-180 "The only time that I have
ever felt I was treated not as a human being was
at Clearwater in '79. Before hat, I felt that it
didn't matter if I got $3.00 or $10.00; it had nothing
to do with the money at the time. It had to do with
just helping to make a better world. It didn't matter.
Day
2 pages 181-200 : "After I left Clearwater,
I felt that I had just escaped with my life. I really
felt that I had been to a hell and that I was alive
again. And I just I knew that I would never, ever
be on staff or have anything to do with Scientology
again. "
MRS.
GARVEY: "Did you ever tell anyone that your
auditing was confidential_?,-
MS.
TAVERNA: That their auditing was confidential?
MRS.
GARVEY: Were you ever told auditing is confidential,
the information that you
MS.
TAVERNA: Oh, positively. Every -- I mean, that is
-- it's printed and you read it., you know. I don't
even know where specifically. But that is very common
knowledge. It's printed in a lot of places. Anything
you say-will, you know, be kept in confidence. It's
assumed and it's also printed.
MRS.
GARVEY: Would you have continued as an auditor if
you, in fact, knew that this was not going to be
kept confidential?
MS.
TAVERNA: Never. One of the things that upset me
and actually brought me to tears -- that I did see
some information from a preclear folder that was
used by the Guardian's Office. I saw the person's
name and I saw all their sexual withholds, and I
just -- I cried because that was something sacred
to me as an auditor, that a person could tell me
anything. And to me, it was the same as a priest.
And I feel that all the people that had auditing,
I subjected them to harrassment. And it shocked
me that -- it disturbed me very much.
MRS.
GARVEY: You actually did see then an audit had been
used?
MS.
TAVERNA: Yes.
Day
2- Page 201-220 MR. FLYNN: The question of a legal
release was brought up by Mrs. Garvey. We will be
putting into evidence the standard legal release
which is contained in their standard volume, which,
I believe the evidence will show, most Scientologists
sign.. But I believe the evidence will show that
most Scientologists don't even are not aware of
what they are signing. We will be putting that into
evidence, together with actual -- the form, together
with actual forms that have been signed by former
Scientologists, together with promissory notes,
waivers, and affidavits as to the type of
Day
2- pages 221-240 MR. LeCHER: As the Mayor of the
city, I'd like to think about the image that you
have of the city. And I when you mention Rome, you
get a certain mental image; when you mention Salt
Lake City, you get another image. And I guess you
get a totally different one when you mention Dachau.
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What
did you think of when you were going to come to
Clearwater, when you first arrived? And what did
you think of Clearwater after you escaped? You mentioned
the word "hell" before. Does that have
any connotation with our city?
MS.
TAVERNA: What I thought of Clearwater was just so
horrible; I couldn't believe that anyone lived here.
I -- I hated everything about the city. I heard
the name and the association was with misery and
pain, and I said it was ugly and horrible. And it
just meant pain and misery to me. I said I would
never come back here for the rest of my life or
look at.I got almost physically ill when I looked
at pictures of it. I would get tremors for about
a month after if I got a brochure and looked at
the Fort Harrison. And I noticed something interesting
last night. I was on the balcony of where I am staying,
and I looked at the beach and I said, "It's
one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been
in." And I'm looking through new eyes. And
I said, "What did I think was so horrible?"
It was being in an atmosphere that was so ugly and
so suppressive.
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I
don't think of it -- I mean, I might still have
a little funny feeling about Clearwater, but I know
it's not that way now.
MR.
LeCHER: Thank you. If you stay a couple of more
days here, you'll love it, too.
MS.
TAVERNA: Okay.
MR.
LeCHER: Thank you very much.
You've
been very good, very cooperative, and a very brave
lady.
MS.
TAVERNA: Thank you.
MR.
FLYNN: Mayor, can we take a-ten-minute recess?
Day
2 - pages 241 -276 Casey Kelly Testimony : MR. BERFIELD:
You would -- you would or would not recommend anybody
going into Scientology?
MR.
KELLEY: I would recommend against it with all my
heart and soul going into it and getting out of
it.
That's---another
thing that I would like known. The average Scientologist
doesn't know about some of these clandestine --
they don't know about any of these clandestine activities
that -- I don't know if anyone's testified on it
or not. But some of the harrassment of Mr. -- former
Mayor Cazares or the Saint-Petersbu-rg Times writers.
They
hear about that stuff, some of these harrassments,
wire taps, and things, and these the Scientolo
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gist
doesn't believe it. They figure that's just noise
to sell papers, when, in fact, it's actually occurring.
The
average Scientologist you see walking on the street
probably isn't a bad person, but he's misled by
the organization, by the policies of the organization.
MR.
BERFIELD: Now, you say they're misled. Do you know
this to, be a fact?
MR.
KELLEY: Yes.
MR.
BERFIELD: Can you give us a for instance?
MR.
KELLEY: Theone for instance I give is an
incident
that happened to me in my home after I got out
of
Scientology, an incident of harrassment, which I
don't
know
if it's -- that's a -
MR.
LeCHER: That's very pertinent.
MR.
KELLEY: When I was on leave well, before I
went
on leave in Portland or Vancouver, Washington where
my brother lives, my brother called everyone from
the FBI, to the CIA on down to find out about Scientology.
He kind of knew that it wasn't all that it was cracked
up to be, but he didn't really know what to do about
it until he called a lot of people -- a bunch of
people until he got in contact with someone who
knew about religious cults or cult activities.
So
when I came home, he had a stack -- you know,
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he
had a stack of papers, some affidavits and things
like that. And he proceeded to ask me a few questions
to which I didn't have logical answers for. So,
I got out, and I decided to stay home.
But
shortly the day after that, Bob and I we went to
a business meeting in Seattle and left his wife
at home alone.
When
we came back, we found her sitting in the closet
with a gun in her hand terrified.
What
had happened was is the day after Halloween, someone
came to the door wearing a Halloween mask, knocked
on the door, she opened -- it was a screen door.
She opened up the door, they asked if Casey Kelley
was there. She said, "No," and started
to close the door on the people. They came into
the house, harrassed her, exposed themselves, threatened
her, saying, "You better leave Casey alone
or it can get worse. Don't call the cops."
That sort of thing.
No
one else in that area knew I was there. I had no
friends because I hadn't been there for three years.
I had no friends in that area that would do something,
you know, off the wall like that. My family didn't
even know I was there, except -- with the exception
of my brother. He was the only one who knew I was
at his home.
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That
made it very real to-me. That made it kind
of
hit home. The average Scientologist does - not know
about that sort of thing taking place.. How can
a religion do that if it's a bonafide religion?
End
of Day 2 testimony
Day
3 - pages 001-025 Casey Kelly continues: MR. LeCHER:
Can you walk me through a typical day in the Church
of Scientology
MR.
KELLEY: It's'a
MR.
LeCHE-R: From our Point of view?
MR.
KELLEY: Right, from my experience in Clearwater.
Boy,
if I can remember. You get up at eight, seven-thirty
or eight -- I'm trying to remember now. You eat
breakfast, be on post by nine, nine-fifteen, work
until lunch, had an hour for lunch, then, work from
twelve-forty-five in the afternoon until five-forty-five
at night -- in the afternoon, an hour for dinner,
and then from six-forty-five until ten-thirty at
night. Every day.
You
got a day off every other week if your statistics
were up.
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MR.
LeCHER: If your stats were down, what happened to
you?
MR.
KELLEY: You didn't get you didn't have a
liberty;
you kept working.
MR.
LeCHER: Explain to me the stats again for the benefit
of the new people watching.
MR.
KELLEY: Well -- my stats?
MR.
LeCHER: No, no, what stats mean.
MR.
KELLEY: Statistics -- you're graded by your statistics.
Supposedly, in the organization, you're not graded
by personality or who you know but by your statistics;
that's what counts. It's statistics. Whatever it
is that you do, say -- say, you're the Director
of Income, your statistics would be how much money
you brought in. And if that graph is going up, then,
you would get a liberty. If this graph was going
down, you'd stay on post that day. There was one
period when I went three months without a liberty,
not a day off.
MR.
LeCHER: Three months?
MR.
KELLEY: Maybe four, at least three.
MR.
LeCHER: Most of this money that came in, was it
coming in from local people or from outside people?
MR.
KELLEY: It was coming from outside. much of it was
coming in from Europe.
Day
3 - Pages 026-050 "MR. SHOEMAKER: You were,
I'm sorry. You were a minister?
MR.
KELLEY: Right, before I MR. SHOEMAKER: How long
was that -- did that
MR.
KELLEY: The course?
MR.
SHOEMAKER: -- course take?
MR.
KELLEY: That's an interesting story. That's something
else the Commission should know about. When the
Iranian crisis was going on, there was a directive
that came on -- that came down from above Flag that
said all Sea Org. members - I don't know if it was
Sea Org. members or if it was just Clearwater Sea,
Org. members - had to finish their minister's course
by the end of the month or go to the RPF. [RPF is
slave labor camp ]
MR.
HATCHETT: A month?
MR.
KELLEY: You had to finish the course. And the only
reason I can find.-- now this is -the two events
are rather coincidental, but there was talk of the
draft coming back. So, the entire staff got through
with their minister's course and got ordained.
MR.
SHOEMAKER: And that course took you -- normally,
how long did it take?
MR.
KELLEY: About four or five weeks.
MR.
SHOEMAKER: Four or five weeks -
MR.
KELLEY: Right.
MR.
SHOEMAKER: -- to become an ordained minister?..
MR.
BERFIELD: Is this like a Gestapo?
MR.
KELLEY: They're not very pleasant people to deal
with. That's the way I always felt about -- I only
had one mission in my time there in my area, and
it was not a pleasant experience.
MR.
LeCHER: What happens if you fall in disfavor with
a CMO member?
MR.
KELLEY: You'll soon find yourself in a blue tee
shirt scrubbing a garage, usually. Those -- those
guys don't mess around. They will -- I was told
point blank once: "One more"
MR.
LeCHER: Threats.
Day
3- pages 051-075
MR.
LeCHER: What do you think: If I left this meeting
on our break and went down to the Open House for
Scientology, would I be treated warmly?
MR.
KELLEY: You would be treated with complete terror
on first walking in. And then, once they got someone
to talk to you -- the security guard would have
some kind of an attack, I'm sure: "My God,
the Mayor's here."
And
then, when he got someone that was more capable
or qualified or that was their job, the y would
show you around. They'd show you the chapel; they'd
show you the classroom upstairs, the lobby, you
know, these real innocuous things. You know, they
won't show you some of the more grisly conditions,
you know, say, a crowded dormitory room or, heaven
forbid, the RPF auditing room, or
MRS.
GARVEY: What's the RPF auditing room?
MR.
KELLEY: -- the -- anything else, you know.
They'll
just show you this, you know, nice, clean
MR.
LeCHER: What is the RPF auditing room? Mrs.
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Garvey
was thinking out loud. What really is the RPF auditing
room? I'd like to know, too.
MR.
KELLEY: Just a big room in the garage where they
do their auditing.
Normally,
auditing is done in a private room. But in the RPF,
you've got four or five guys auditing in the same
room.
Day
3 Pages 076-100 Lori Taverna MR. FLYNN: The next
exhibit is an exhibit of Tonja Burden - it's a multi-page
exhibit with some fifty or seventy thousand dollars
of promissory notes - who worked for the organization
from the age of thirteen to the age of seventeen.
She never was given any education in this city;
she was for two years and three months.
And
as you will see from the exhibit, she signed releases,
non-disclosure bonds, promissory notes
MR.
LECHER: At what age did she sign these?
MR.
FLYNN: At varying ages during -- with regard to
the invoices and the promissory notes, at various
times when she was in the city. With regard to the
releases, she signed releases when she was in the
organization. And then, afterwards, she was taken
-- after she escaped from the City-of Clearwater,
as the affidavit will show and if need be, she can
be called as a witness, but she does have a lawsuit
against the Church, and I have made an effort to
discriminate between individuals who have a lawsuit
and those who don't, but she could be called as
a witness.
And
as her -- some of her documents show, she was --
and her affidavit will show to the Commission, after
she literally escaped from the Fort Harrison RPF,
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she
went home to her -- the City of Las Vegas. And approximately
two or three weeks later, two Guardian's office
operatives-arrived in the City of Las Vegas and
took her to Los Angeles, locked her in a room, and
put her on the cans. And after that, she was made
to sign many documents which are here, which I won't
read at this particular time but.I'll 'read in connection
with her affidavit, whereby she was informed that
she owed the organization some sixty thousand dollars.
And this is after she was out of the organization.
And she was sent a freeloader's debt of $63,000.00
which she was told she had to pay and
MR.
LeCHER: What I'm getting at: Would she sign something
that she believed to be legal? was she a minor;
was she under age?
MR.
FLYNN:, That's correct.
MR.
LeCHER: She was what, sixteen years old?
'MR.
FLYNN: That's correct.
She
was signing she signed many documents at various
points in time from the age of thirteen to the age
of seventeen.
MR
LeCHER: Can a thirteen to a seventeen year old sign
something to pay eighty, ninety thousand dollars?
MR.
FLYNN: Of course not.
Day
3 - pages 100-150 Testimony of Rosie Pace
MR.
HATCHETT: What may have been your impression
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of
their physical condition going in or coming out?
MS.
PACE: I saw people with sores all over their body.
On the RPF, you're not allowed to walk ever, you
have to run constantly. And they just look exhausted
and physically ill. That's my opinion.
MR.
HATCHETT: Would you consider that the conduct of
the Church of Scientology, in order to control you
and
physically
control you and, also, to have the proper mind set
to serve them for a billion years have you
heard
that term?
MS.
PACE: Yes.
MR.
HATCHETT: Would you call that repressive in any
way?
MS.
PACE: Yes.
MR.
HATCHETT: Yet, they said the world, generally, were
repressive, right?
MS.
PACE: Uh-huh.
MR.
HATCHETT: And they used tactics far beyond that
to achieve their goals;.would you say that?
MS.
PACE: Yes.
MR.
HATCHETT: Against anyone?
MS.
PACE: Yes.
MR.
HATCHETT: Thank you.
Day
3 - Pages 100-150
MR.
SHOEMAKER: What is the worst thing that can happen
to a Scientologist?
MS.
PACE: I don't understand.
MR.
SHOEMAKER: In terms of devoting your life, which,
obviously, you did
MS.
PACE: Yes.
MR.
SHOEMAKER: -- for a period of sixteen or seventeen
years and I'm walking on sensitive ground with the
beliefs
what
is the. worst thing that somebody could say could
happen to you as a Scientologist, the worst thing
that could
happen
to you?
MS.
PACE: Do you mean, after you-leave the Church or
while you're a Scientologist?
MR.
SHOEMAKER: Or even leaving the Church -
MS.
PACE: I think the worst part of the Church of Scientology
is the feeling that you can't leave. Through the
processing, which I considered damaging sometimes,
I feel it's a -- I feel that you can get brainwashed
to a point where you feel you can't leave, which
is the worst part: the betrayal that you're leaving
the group when they're supposedly freeing the planet.
And this is drummed into you-. And even now, I still
have the effects of Scientology. I'm not over it
yet.
MR.
BERFIELD: I'll leave you with this one: If you could
tell the people of Clearwater and they all could
hear you, what would you tell them?
MS.
PACE: Well, I think I mentioned it earlier how
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I
feel about Scientology...When I was in Clearwater
at Flag, I hated the city, and I dreaded coming
back. And I look at it very different now. I think
Scientology -- something should be done about Scientology
and I'm glad that the hearings are going on. I'm
glad the people are hearing the truth of what goes
on at the Fort Harris on. That is all.
And
by the time I got to the Treasury Department, I
found out that until I did what they call Project
0 and Project I,-which entails about twelve courses,
long courses, that I was only going to make $9.60
a week. I said, "Wait a minute. This isn't
right. This is not what I was told; this is not
what I agreed to," okay? And they said, "Well,"
you know, "we don't know what your recruiter
told you, but this is the way it is." So, I
had to accept it.
And
about day two -- when I first came there, they put
me in a room by myself, which was really nice and
I
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Day
3 - Pages 151-200 Mr Ray continued:
Day
two they said, "Okay, we're going to take you
to where you're going to bunk. Now, this is an exec
-- this is a room for executive people in the Church
of Scientology, okay? You're new here, don't talk
to them." And I said, "What?" And
they said, "Don't talk to them." I said,
"Okay."
So,
I walked into the room, and when that door opened
that was it. The air was so thick and the stench
was so bad it just about knocked me over. So, I
walked in the room and I was just thinking, "You
got to be" -
MR.
LeCHER: Thick with what and what kind of stench?
MR.
RAY: Body odor. And I walked in and the room was
about twelve feet by sixteen feet, not including
the bathroom; there was a small bathroom there which
was a mess. But there were four bunks on each side.
Eight people in that room had all their clothes,
all their belongings in that room. There were boxes
with papers, dirty clothes piled up from the ceiling
to the floor -- floor to ceiling, excuse me, and
all over the place and there wasn't much room to
move around. And there were cockroaches -- like,
I'm from the west coast, and I'd never seen palmetto
bugs, and to me that's just a giant cockroach.
MR.
LeCHER: They are to us, too, but we call them palmetto
bugs; it sounds better.
Pages
MR.
RAY: Y eah. I wanted to leave and go down to the
beach and get some sleep. I could not sleep in that
room. There were bugs crawling all over the place;
it smelled real bad.
One
night I was.told by the guys in the room it was
a wolf spider - but one night I was laying there
and I kept feeling these little bites on my body.
I didn't know what it was, these little sharp pain
things. And so, I got,up pretty early and decided
to take a shower, walked-in, looked down, and the
whole side of my body was covered with blood. And
so, I washed it off and looked, and there were a
whole bunch of little bumps on my body. So, I walked
back over to my bed real quick, flipped back the
covers, and there was this huge, brown spider. And
I smashed it, to say the least.
So,
I went to the Medical officer, and I started running
a fever. And I and there was no way I could work.
I needed to
lay
down and get some sleep. So, I went in there, and
he said, "What kind of overts and withholds
do you have about spiders?" Sick. And I said,
"Well, I just need to relax. Can I see a doctor?"
And he said, "No, you can't see a doctor."
And he says, "Anyway, can you afford it? How
much money do you have?" I said, "Well,
I have about five dollars." He says, "Well,
we don't pay for your doctor's expenses. That's
something you're going to have to save for if you
want to see a doctor." okay. "What we
can do" --
MR.
LeCHER: And you were making 8.60 a week at this
time?
MR.
RAY: Nine-sixty. [ $9.60 ]
MR.
RAY: Yes. There are about -- there are some staff
members, Fred Hodgekinson is one and Ernie - I don't
remember his last name - but they work in the Engineer'ing
Department, and they do physical labor, and they're
about seventy years old, all right? And they give
these guys auditing and processing, you know, to
help -- they've got arthritis, okay?
one
of them's got some serious back problems. -Well,
they tell them that through this auditing, they'll
cure that so they can go ahead and work. And they
push them just as hard as they push anybody else.
And I've seen
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them
collapse twice.
MR.
LeCHER: The older people?
MR.
RAY: Yes.
Day
3 Pages 251-300
MRS.
HARTWELL:
I
saw my daughter very little because she, first,
was in the RPF. Then, they got -- they put her in
isolation again. She got ill; her fever went up
one degree and down one degree, and she was in there
for about two and-a-half months in this one room,
not allowed to see anybody. You can imagine what
that has done to her brain.
Then,
when we did come home, we thought everything was
going smooth and everything, then, the harrassment
started. The night that -- it was twelve-thirty
at night when Mary Louise came to my home and she
kept trying to get me out of the house. I was --
a mother is the only one who would know the feeling
I had. I opened the door and I was really scared
of my daughter. And yet, I can't tell you why, except
her face, her eyes, and her attitude. I refused
to leave the house. And I can't really remember
anything that went on all the time that Ernie was
with Alan Hubbard. And she wanted to know if we
were afraid for our lives, and I told her, "Yes."
And then, the police told us we should report that.
and
then, the next day we were told that we had to move
out. And then, the next day they came on my job.
I worked at MGM, where it was strictly guarded,
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with
millions.of dollars of money in costumes, and I
turned around and my daughter was there. And she
come -I told her not to come in again, she was jeopardizing
my job. She came back two different times and brought
Alan Hubbard with her, once. The last time she told
me that she said, "I want you to know that
nobody has been murdered over any of these things
yet. But it's going to get, a lot worse before it
gets any better." And I started to cry and
I said, "Yes, I know it is." Then*, she
put her arms around me and said she loved me.
Sorry.
Day
3 pages 300-346- George Meister
MR.
MEISTER: My name is George Meister. I'm here, not
because I've ever been a member of the Church of
Scientology or ever will be, but I'm here in behalf
of my daughter, Susan. And I'd like to have the
camera get a shot of this picture, possibly. This
is a picture of my daughter, and that's all I have.
Susan died aboard the ship, Apollo, June 25th, 1971,
with a bullet in the middle of her forehead.
Day
4 pages 001-077
"MR.
FLYNN: At this time I will introduce the Affidavit
of Stephen Garritano. And I'll read briefly from
it. In order to save some time, I'll skip over portions
of it and read the pertinent portions into the record.
."My
introduction to Scientology was in January of 1977
when the following representations were made to
me concerning the benefits of auditing in Scientology.
Thes representations were that auditing was scientifically
guarantded to confer the following benefits,"
and then there is a number of them listed which
I won't'read.
And
then there's a statement about Mr. Hubbard's
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background
and representations and Mr. Garritano's reliance
on them. "Based on the above representations,
I joined the Church of Scientology. After two and-a-half
years experience as a Scientologist, I eventually
discovered that the above representations were false
and made for the single purpose to entice the people
to purchase auditing and courses or join staff.
"In
early 1979, 1 went to Flag Land Base in Clearwater,
Florida. I contracted an illness which was later
diagnosed as hepatitis. I received an injection/hypodermic
needle from a Scientologiat dressed in a white Uniform,
which I was told was a hepatitis vaccine. To my
knowledge, this individual was not a medical doctor.
"I
was later diagnosed by my father,' Dr. Garritano,
in the Beth Israel Hospital in Boston, to have suffered
from hepatitis, mononucleosis, and strep throat.
"While
in Clearwater, I observed the living conditions
of staff members to be unsanitary. On one occasion
I entered a small room, which was constructed to
facilitate one occupant, inhabited by a minimum
of eight people. These individuals slept in two
triple bunks and two single beds.
"Conditions
for those individuals imprisoned in the Rehabilitation
Project Force, RPF, were unhealthy
and
unsanitary. Those individuals were forced to live
and sleep in the garage."
It's
signed, "Stephen Garritano," under the
pains and penalties of perjury.
If
need be, Mr. Garritano, at some point, can be called
to testify.
(The
Affidavit of Stephen Garritano was marked as Exhibit
No. 45, as of this date.)
Day
4 - pages 78-147 Ex Guardians Office auditor Janie
Peterson
Mr.
Hartwell's auditing information -- copies of the
auditing information were made and circulated all
over the United States and out of this country They
also went a the Worldwide Guardian's Office, which
is in England. At one point, his auditing information
was -excuse me. It was being used against him, in
other words. He was also accused of trying to extort
Church money from the Church. This was based on
mainly hours of taped testimony that had been taken
and edited down to a very small cassette tape.
on
Tonja Burden, her auditing information was sent
in to -- it was sent here -- or to Las Vegas from
the Guardian's Office here in Clearwater, confidential
auditing information that she had given. It was
accompanied with an order to the Public Relations
person in Las Vegas to take to the Review Journal,
which is a newspaper,
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in
an attempt to discredit her to show that she was
this bad person, supposedly, based on this information.
On
Mrs. van Schaick she already spoke about the
program
that was written up called Shake and Bake. Basically,
this -:- all programs that were written up were
given names. That just happened to be the name of
that one. And the purpose of the program was to
-- in fact, it was either the first or second step
listed on the program. The wording was: "Plant
seeds of doubt in her mind concerning her attorney,
Michael Flynn, and in her husband's mind regarding
her character."
Day
4 pages 148-255
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MR. LeCHER: Thank you. Mr. Flynn.
MR.
FLYNN: Go ahead.
MRS.
McKEE: This would be in the end the end of the summer
or the beginning of the fall of 1981. A friend of
mine - his name was Gordon Karas - had recently
come home from Los Angeles, He'd been on his advanced
courses, and out there he met a lady named Elaine
Segal and they just had become friends. Elaine Segal
works for Branch 1 of the Guardian's Office, the
Investigative Bureau in Boston. My friend went up
to Boston, I think, just to visit and stopped into
the Church there and saw her and they started chatting.
What she said to him is that she would like him
to move up to Boston for the purpose of not actually
becoming a student, but Elaine would provide documents
in a local college to prove that he was - give him
a background, a cover story - that he was actually
a student in a Boston college, and she wanted Gordon
to go out with Michael Flynn's secretary. I don't
know that-she specifically said to gather data or
not, but Gordon is a very personable, handsome young
man and she wanted him to start dating this woman.
and get to know Michael-Flynn's secretary, hopefully
to
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become
involved.
MR.
FLYNN: That's all at this point. And at that time
I was working with the city in preparation of the
report to this Commission, the period of time in
which she testified about. And at a later point
in time we'll try to tie the information together
for you.
MR.
LeCHEA: Apparently, you're trying to establish a
pattern with this?
MR.
FLYNN: That's correct. I have - this is hearsay
information - I have had information for some that
the Church of Scientology had the report to this
Commission sometime in advance of its public presentation.
MR.
LeCHER:. Thank you very much. Is there anything
-- I guess that's it, then.
Day
4 pages 226-300 Scott Mayer testimony
MR.
MAYER: -- with the Bill Foster story. I mean, let's
face it, I helped a man who was wanted by the federal
government get out of this country, and I got him
out real fast.
MRS.
GARVEY: That's
MR.
MAYER: I don't know if the statute of limitations
is up or not. I'm not here to defend mvself. I've
done what I've done and you can make do with whatever
you want to of it. But I'm here because I know of
a lot of very, very decent people who've been jacked
around by this organization, their families disrupted,
their lives -- I have not been able to live--in
one place for the last three years. I. had to structure
my whole occupation not around what I can do but
around what I am limited to doing in order to avoid
my background with the Church from being exposed
to an employer. And that's commonplace. And I would
like to see people, like -- the stuff I've got is
nothing. There are people that I know of that have
got things that would really curl your hair, and
they're afraid to step out.
..
'MR.
MAYER: while I'm on the subject, I myself have used
data in a person's confessional folder against him,
all right? One of the missions that I did - it was
a Flag originated Mission; Flag was not in Clearwater
at the time - there was a staff member there who
had been doing some stuff with some animals. And
the woman that was
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sent
-- she was in the country illegally, by the way;
she was sent with me. We brought the guy into the
office and just laid it out in front of him and
said, you know, "You either get on the stick
or you're going to be expelled, and that's your
spiritual future." I've done it myself.
Day
4 - pages 301 to end - Dardano testimony
MR.
BERFIELD: Can you tell us just very briefly what
made you come down here today?
MR.
DARDANO: Just for the fact that I know it's important.
Scientology has been putting the screws to a lot
of people for a long time. And I spent six years
and fifteen thousand dollars. The kids -- the people
that are being indoctrinated into the Church are
-- they're being duped into it. Most of them are
just swallowed up by the Church. They're not allowed
to think for themselves. You go into the Church
and you're immediately fed with L. Ron Hubbard's
data. You're not allowed to use any of your own
information and experiences to evaluate the present
situation. You're completely isolated from society.
You think you're doing the best thing in the world.
You think you're going to help the world. And you
become so dedicated and ingrained in the doctrine
of L. Ron Hubbard.
MR.
BERFIELD: How would you describe the practice of
Scientology?
MR.
DARDANO: How would I describe it?
MR.
BERFIELD: Yes. Are they honest, deceptive
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MR.
DARDANO: They're just -- money making; that's all
they want to do, just make a buck.
MR.
LeCHER: Okay. Mrs. Garvey, any questions?
MRS.
GARVEY: Yes. Just -- sir, why did you leave? What
finally was the break point?
MR.
DARDANO: I was -- after the line was broken up because
of the out security and George Bristol's cover being
blown in the Attorney General's Office, I went down
to FOLO, Flag liaison office in New York. And I
was trained there for -- to become a missioner.
But Deac Finn and I had several personality conflicts.
He had called me back to Boston and I was security
checked for about six hours. And after that -- security
checking is -- it can get pretty brutal at times,
and I had just had enough and decided to leave.
MRS.
GARVEY: Why -- what was your justification for your
burglarizing and stealing of files?
MR.
DARDANO: I thought Scientology was going to save
the planet and free the world and we were right
and everyone else was wrong.
MRS.
GARVEY: Did you see -- did you receive detailed
reports that you had to follow on your -
MR.
DARDANO: No. Our reports were all typed and handwritten.
We didn't receive any written information from the
higher sources. It was all given verbally or it
was given in written form, but all of the written
form was destroyed immediately after it was received.
MRS.
GARVEY: That's it. MR.LeCHER: One just quick question
for the record: You mentioned someone recruited
you into the dirty tricks movement from the Guardian's
Office. would you like to give me that name of that
person who recruited you?
MR.
DARDANO: Yes. It was Gary Brown.
[snip]
MR.
FLYNN: The next witness is going to be Paulette
Cooper.
Day
5 - pages 1 thru 111
MR.
FLYNN: No. I was not relating it so much to wages,
which is an altogether -- another issue. If they
paid them the wages, they wouldn't have the labor
force to do it.
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But
even if you enforced an ordinance that says you
could only have two people per room, where would
the labor force go? And if the labor force is reduced
all of the support technology-that keeps this million
dollars a week flowing may be affected. One -- one
point of interest is that, in 1981, 1 believe, David
Ray testified, in the summer, he was over -- he
was over at the Fort Harrison. At that time, and
this is from my memory - the Scientologists, at
least with regard to the Bank of: Clearwater building,
were erecting on it - outside their building at
some point during that period - to try to spruce
up their image, their PR image, while David Ray
was chest-deep in garbage and living in a room with
eight to ten people. I would suggest to you, that
may have something to do with deception of this
city. With regard to -- and this is really not specifically
relevant because it's the organizational policies,
not necessarily Hubbard's. If Hubbard adopted them
in the chain of command, that's for your consideration.
But if the organization was doing them on an organization
wide level, that's all you need, regardless of who
wrote them. But there is the SO 1 line, the Sea
Org. -- the
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Standing
Order Number 1, where people like Tonja Burden and
Taverna and others could be made aware of the terrible
conditions. There is the Hartwell testimony where
they were on the ranch with Mr. Hubbard where all
the terrible conditions persisted. And that goes
right to the top of the organization. The inferences
that could be drawn there are of significance. The
medical issues are of obvious significance. It's
a whole area which could be investigated in itself.
Perhaps, it's appropriate for the AMA or for your
local investigative agency to do so. There has been
testimony, for instance, from Van Schaick that she
had to drink alcohol for the hepatitis epidemic.
There is the Affidavit of Garritano that he was
here; he got hepatitis. If you want to go up and
take his deposition or pay for him to come to this
city, that could be done. Those epidemics and those
problems should not be treated by Medical Officers.
The city should be aware that they exist, and they
should be given proper treatment. And as someone
testified, there wasn't enough money to go-to the
doctor. I believe it was David Ray who was told
that by the Medical Officer. There wasn't
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enough
money to go to the doctor, but there was enough
money to infiltrate and steal documents from agencies
all across the country, including, as the extensive
exhibit shows, documents in this city. The education
and the care of the children issue is of significance.
The testimony by Miss Van Schaick about the death
of that child, which is currently under investigation,
deserves to be looked into. I will state and this
is not to be taken as part of the factual record
but only -in terms of your consideration for pursuing
the investigation on this subject - - we do have
other evidence that has nothing to do with LaVenda
Van Schaick about that situation. And when LaVenda
Van Schaick testified about it, for your information,
we didn't even know that she was going to testify
about it, and we didn't know that she had that information
because our information comes from other sources.
And we were quite surprised when we heard it. The
things, like, telling children and thirteen- and
fourteen-year old Cadet Org members that the U.S.
government nerve gassed Jonestown people is of significant
concern, when those same twelve and thirteen-year
old children are working day and night -- are working
all day and playing video games at night and not
receiving an
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education.
Miss Taverna testified that in another city her
child didn't receive the proper education. There's
testimony to some degree about what some of these
children were doing here. The ideal testimony would
have been from a teacher who had been in the City
of Clearwater. We have that evidence in Los Angeles,
and we are -- we have hard, concrete evidence. We
don't have anyone who would come forward that was
anywhere closeto a teacher or a nanny in Clearwater
that we could have presented to you. We do have
that situation, and we presented an affidavit on
it with regard to the person's knowledge of the
conditions in Los Angeles. And you've got Tonja
Burden's testimony that she was here - in her affidavit
- for all those years and she never received any.
And you have Rosie Pace's testimony and Lori Taverna's
testimony, which relate to some degree to the issue,
at least, enough to, perhaps, suggest to you that
there should be some investigatory effort made in
that area. We are going to have to -- there are
the issues of restraint, physical versus psychological.
There's some evidence of -- probably more evidence
of a psycho- logical type of restraint. But there
is some evidence of actual physical restraint, and
I believe the record will bear that out. David Ray
got into a fist fight because he wanted to go out
for one day. Taverna was asked to go with her Ethics
Officer to physically restrain someone. But I believe
the bulk of the evidence shows more of a psychological
restraint than a physical restraint, but there is
some evidence of the latter. The whole family disintegration
issue, et cetera, is an issue of broad-ranging consequences.
To me, personally, I would -- and professionally,
I would view it as an area of extremely vital concern.
tologists would claim that it, perhaps, invades
their religious practices, so we won't pursue that
-- for the time -- for the present time. The financial
issues are, of course, significant. The testimony
-- I've already referred to some degree as to how
much they made. One of the reasons we brought someone
like Kelley, for instance, is because he actually
received the invoices. That's pretty hard evidence
in terms of accounting procedures and the type of
evidence. that often can come into a judicial proceeding,
which this is not, on trying to prove how much money
they get. They could publish things in their --
on their bulletin board, whatever, as, I believe,
Taverna testified to, that she saw some publication
about one million per week.
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But
Kelley's testimony was pretty hard testimony because
he actually received the invoices and he knew exactly
what was coming in during the period that he was
doing that. And there was corroborative evidence
on the 2.3 million dollar week.
Mayer
testified about the twenty-five pecent seventy-five
percent breakdown and how Hubbard tries to keep
the expenses down to twenty-five percent. The rice
and beans issue, the labor force issue, the nine
dollars and sixty cents per hour or seventeen --
per week: or seventeen dollars and twenty cents
per week are all issues that have to be considered
in terms of the deception, the ordinances, both
charitable and consumer protection, and the impact
- as I've previously dis- cussed - the impact on
controlling to some degree, through proper ordinances
or enforcement of zoning provisions or whatever,
how that labor force lives would have -- could have
a significant impact on financial considera- tions.
The
Clearwater connection has a lot of very specific
items of evidence. I believe the overall -- and
I could run through them. all. I believe they'll
all be borne out in the record, when it's created,
and the legal inferences to be drawn therefrom.
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I
suggest to you, as I suggested at the outset, the
primary consideration is the organization, not the
individuals - not Hugh Wilhere or Janie Peterson
or even L. Ron Hubbard. The primary consideration
is the organi- zation, whether the organization
has got policies.doing the types of things'that
some of these witnesses have testified about and
what can be done to deal with those policies in
your City to prevent them from happening again,
and, perhaps, even to correct abuses that have been
inflicted upon people in this city in past, but
possibly to give them some degree of remedial protection.
Thank you.
MR.
LeCHER:
Does
that conclude your summation, sir?
MR.
FLYNN: Yes, it does, Mayor.
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